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Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:41 pm
by Thrillkill
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:35 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:30 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:15 pm

And Lowry and Leonard.... please.
Every big name but 1? Read again? You think Lowrey is some kind of young star? His entire rep is el playoff foldo. Lowrey was not as good as his UDFA backup.
He is a star. Plus, they developed these guys. Something the Wolves fail at because they stick to guys like Jeff Teague who will not impact the future of the team. They will give him minutes but not develop future players. We have been doing this since 2009.
Lowrey and Jeff Teague were pretty much equal until Teague's injury plagued year.

And again who is this PG that we need to develop?

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:46 pm
by RubeTube
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:33 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:21 pm
Moses Scurry wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:37 pm Rosa's has three things in play. Move up or get Russell or get Paul which involves moving Wiggins for at least two of those.
Agreed. Looks like he is finally going to fix our PG position. The most important position in basketball. No wonder this organization has a rotten history. We never have a good one.

I will be happy will either of the 3. Paul the least but I would still take him if they take Wiggins.
What do you think it would cost to move up from #11 and get one of the PGs?
Not sure but I think a good amount.

I'm not interested in trading up for White unless it doesn't take much.

Garland I would make a move for but at the spot he's going and other teams involved, it's almost impossible.

After Kat, RoCo and Okogie, we have nothing nobody wants to move up.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:47 pm
by mlhouse
Thrillkill wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:41 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:35 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:30 pm
Every big name but 1? Read again? You think Lowrey is some kind of young star? His entire rep is el playoff foldo. Lowrey was not as good as his UDFA backup.
He is a star. Plus, they developed these guys. Something the Wolves fail at because they stick to guys like Jeff Teague who will not impact the future of the team. They will give him minutes but not develop future players. We have been doing this since 2009.
Lowrey and Jeff Teague were pretty much equal until Teague's injury plagued year.

And again who is this PG that we need to develop?
Anybody, anybody but Jeff Teague. Find some young guy with potential upside. Let him develop. Cheap contract with easy dump.

It is certain that in 2019-20, whoever that player is, they will not be as good as Jeff Teague. But who cares. If they develop, they contribute in 2020-21. Jeff Teague will not.

If we were in the offseason of 2018-19, with a happy Jimmy Butler and having made the playoffs the previous year, it is a different story. And while I do not advocate tanking, this team should be in development mode and trying to work out pieces that will be important in the future. Band aids and quick fixes to win a couple more meaningless games when we will almost certainly miss the playoffs costs the team moving forward.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:18 pm
by LordNu
Definitely feeling a multi team trade is in the works, and we will be parting with Wiggins. What we gain is probably DeAngelo Russell. Question is whether Teague is used as well.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:40 pm
by mlhouse
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:18 pm Definitely feeling a multi team trade is in the works, and we will be parting with Wiggins. What we gain is probably DeAngelo Russell. Question is whether Teague is used as well.
I would love to get Russell, but I doubt a trade can be in the works with him. He is a restricted free agent and such a trade would have to be a sign and trade.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:58 pm
by LordNu
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:40 pm
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:18 pm Definitely feeling a multi team trade is in the works, and we will be parting with Wiggins. What we gain is probably DeAngelo Russell. Question is whether Teague is used as well.
I would love to get Russell, but I doubt a trade can be in the works with him. He is a restricted free agent and such a trade would have to be a sign and trade.
Sign and trades can be added to multi team deals though, no? I guess that would be the key, the space freeing up. Kyrie to Nets, as part of it, Boston would get? I am seriously going off tangent.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:01 pm
by mlhouse
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:58 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:40 pm
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:18 pm Definitely feeling a multi team trade is in the works, and we will be parting with Wiggins. What we gain is probably DeAngelo Russell. Question is whether Teague is used as well.
I would love to get Russell, but I doubt a trade can be in the works with him. He is a restricted free agent and such a trade would have to be a sign and trade.
Sign and trades can be added to multi team deals though, no? I guess that would be the key, the space freeing up. Kyrie to Nets, as part of it, Boston would get? I am seriously going off tangent.
Then Wiggins would go to Boston... Maybe Boston just does a S&T Irving for Russell. Or just signs Russell outright. They have cap room with Horford declining his $30 million player option and Irving leaving.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:19 pm
by witljon
Thrillkill wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:07 pm Why? I refer you to this team called the Raptors. You know, that one where every big name but 1 is over the hill and a 2nd rounder and a UDFA are probably the 2nd and 3rd reason they won/
So, were the injuries to Clay and Durant the 4th and 5th reason they won? :thinking:

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:06 pm
by UnFadeable21


Lakers clearing max space

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:07 pm
by LordNu
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:01 pm
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:58 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:40 pm

I would love to get Russell, but I doubt a trade can be in the works with him. He is a restricted free agent and such a trade would have to be a sign and trade.
Sign and trades can be added to multi team deals though, no? I guess that would be the key, the space freeing up. Kyrie to Nets, as part of it, Boston would get? I am seriously going off tangent.
Then Wiggins would go to Boston... Maybe Boston just does a S&T Irving for Russell. Or just signs Russell outright. They have cap room with Horford declining his $30 million player option and Irving leaving.
Or CP3 to Boston, Wiggins to Houston. I'm just throwing this out there.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 pm
by mlhouse
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:07 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:01 pm
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:58 pm

Sign and trades can be added to multi team deals though, no? I guess that would be the key, the space freeing up. Kyrie to Nets, as part of it, Boston would get? I am seriously going off tangent.
Then Wiggins would go to Boston... Maybe Boston just does a S&T Irving for Russell. Or just signs Russell outright. They have cap room with Horford declining his $30 million player option and Irving leaving.
Or CP3 to Boston, Wiggins to Houston. I'm just throwing this out there.
Or Harden to Boston.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:28 pm
by morneaumvp
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:59 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:52 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:51 pm

I would do Teague, Saric, and one more guy for Paul.

Cp3
Wigs
Roco
Pick 11
Towns
Wiggins.

Teavue, Wiggins and Saric for Paul. Get it done!

We need to keep Wigs. He
and KAT are the future
:lol:

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:41 pm
by j2j
witljon wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:19 pm
Thrillkill wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:07 pm Why? I refer you to this team called the Raptors. You know, that one where every big name but 1 is over the hill and a 2nd rounder and a UDFA are probably the 2nd and 3rd reason they won/
So, were the injuries to Clay and Durant the 4th and 5th reason they won? :thinking:
Injuries only matter if they're excuses to protect LeFlop's legacy.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:42 pm
by j2j
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 pm
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:07 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:01 pm

Then Wiggins would go to Boston... Maybe Boston just does a S&T Irving for Russell. Or just signs Russell outright. They have cap room with Horford declining his $30 million player option and Irving leaving.
Or CP3 to Boston, Wiggins to Houston. I'm just throwing this out there.
Or Harden to Boston.
Harden ain't going anywhere

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:48 pm
by DC4MVP
I don't know why it's so hard to understand that NO star wants to be here.

Even IF they do get traded here, they're going to piss & moan their way to a trade just like Butler.

They're all spoiled d-bags who want to be on a coast, not in a place that gets to -20 in the winter.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
by j2j
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:48 pm I don't know why it's so hard to understand that NO star wants to be here.

Even IF they do get traded here, they're going to piss & moan their way to a trade just like Butler.

They're all spoiled d-bags who want to be on a coast, not in a place that gets to -20 in the winter.
Ok and?

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
by mlhouse
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:42 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 pm
LordNu wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:07 pm

Or CP3 to Boston, Wiggins to Houston. I'm just throwing this out there.
Or Harden to Boston.
Harden ain't going anywhere
Probably not. But the rumor is he isn't untouchable too. A package centered on Jason Tatum, at least one of the 2019 firsts, Memphis 2020 first pick unprotected in 2021 (probably the double draft people are talking about, Boston's 2021 first and second that can be deferred to 2022 (in case that is the double pick year) with Rozier in S&T.

Probably would not do it, but it would be an intriguing option.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:50 pm
by RubeTube
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:42 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 pm

Or Harden to Boston.
Harden ain't going anywhere
Probably not. But the rumor is he isn't untouchable too. A package centered on Jason Tatum, at least one of the 2019 firsts, Memphis 2020 first pick unprotected in 2021 (probably the double draft people are talking about, Boston's 2021 first and second that can be deferred to 2022 (in case that is the double pick year) with Rozier in S&T.

Probably would not do it, but it would be an intriguing option.
No.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
by DC4MVP
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:48 pm I don't know why it's so hard to understand that NO star wants to be here.

Even IF they do get traded here, they're going to piss & moan their way to a trade just like Butler.

They're all spoiled d-bags who want to be on a coast, not in a place that gets to -20 in the winter.
Ok and?
Stop torturing yourselves, you nerds.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
by j2j
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:42 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:08 pm

Or Harden to Boston.
Harden ain't going anywhere
Probably not. But the rumor is he isn't untouchable too. A package centered on Jason Tatum, at least one of the 2019 firsts, Memphis 2020 first pick unprotected in 2021 (probably the double draft people are talking about, Boston's 2021 first and second that can be deferred to 2022 (in case that is the double pick year) with Rozier in S&T.

Probably would not do it, but it would be an intriguing option.
Just cant see any trade that would get Harden out of Houston. They don't try so hard to retain D'Antoni, who makes the perfect match with Harden, to then trade the player. Those two wouldn't function without each other.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:53 pm
by j2j
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:48 pm I don't know why it's so hard to understand that NO star wants to be here.

Even IF they do get traded here, they're going to piss & moan their way to a trade just like Butler.

They're all spoiled d-bags who want to be on a coast, not in a place that gets to -20 in the winter.
Ok and?
Stop torturing yourselves, you nerds.
Why do you bother posting here then? If it's such torture, wouldn't you be more inclined to post on the board for one of our other super successful local teams?

See ya in Lynx chat, nerd.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:56 pm
by DC4MVP
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:53 pm
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm

Ok and?
Stop torturing yourselves, you nerds.
Why do you bother posting here then?
Because it's fun watching you little twits getting excited and fantasizing about stupid ideas like getting CP3 or Harden then arguing over what to give up for them like it's actually going to happen.

Start up NBA 2k19 and jerk off to the trades you make in GM mode, losers.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:57 pm
by j2j
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:56 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:53 pm
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm

Stop torturing yourselves, you nerds.
Why do you bother posting here then?
Because it's fun watching you little twits getting excited and fantasizing about stupid ideas like getting CP3 or Harden then arguing over what to give up for them like it's actually going to happen.

Start up NBA 2k19 and jerk off to the trades you make in GM mode, losers.
And that triggers you. Sorry dude. Hope you find a way to cope.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:58 pm
by DC4MVP
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:57 pm
DC4MVP wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:56 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:53 pm

Why do you bother posting here then?
Because it's fun watching you little twits getting excited and fantasizing about stupid ideas like getting CP3 or Harden then arguing over what to give up for them like it's actually going to happen.

Start up NBA 2k19 and jerk off to the trades you make in GM mode, losers.
And that triggers you. Sorry dude. Hope you find a way to cope.
Entertains**

Why are you wasting time replying to me?

Don't you have trades to analyze and discuss that would off-load Wiggins & Teague for the rights to picking Zion?

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:58 pm
by mlhouse
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:42 pm

Harden ain't going anywhere
Probably not. But the rumor is he isn't untouchable too. A package centered on Jason Tatum, at least one of the 2019 firsts, Memphis 2020 first pick unprotected in 2021 (probably the double draft people are talking about, Boston's 2021 first and second that can be deferred to 2022 (in case that is the double pick year) with Rozier in S&T.

Probably would not do it, but it would be an intriguing option.
Just cant see any trade that would get Harden out of Houston. They don't try so hard to retain D'Antoni, who makes the perfect match with Harden, to then trade the player. Those two wouldn't function without each other.
I agree, but I can see the Rockets mulling that one over. They are on the hook for him the next four years with a DPVE totalling over $169 million.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:01 pm
by j2j
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:58 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm

Probably not. But the rumor is he isn't untouchable too. A package centered on Jason Tatum, at least one of the 2019 firsts, Memphis 2020 first pick unprotected in 2021 (probably the double draft people are talking about, Boston's 2021 first and second that can be deferred to 2022 (in case that is the double pick year) with Rozier in S&T.

Probably would not do it, but it would be an intriguing option.
Just cant see any trade that would get Harden out of Houston. They don't try so hard to retain D'Antoni, who makes the perfect match with Harden, to then trade the player. Those two wouldn't function without each other.
I agree, but I can see the Rockets mulling that one over. They are on the hook for him the next four years with a DPVE totalling over $169 million.
I can't see them spending even 2 seconds considering it. To the point that I don't think any team would bother even offering anything for Harden. It makes less sense than someone offering up a trade for LeBron or Curry. Waste of energy.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:03 pm
by mlhouse
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:01 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:58 pm
j2j wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm

Just cant see any trade that would get Harden out of Houston. They don't try so hard to retain D'Antoni, who makes the perfect match with Harden, to then trade the player. Those two wouldn't function without each other.
I agree, but I can see the Rockets mulling that one over. They are on the hook for him the next four years with a DPVE totalling over $169 million.
I can't see them spending even 2 seconds considering it. To the point that I don't think any team would bother even offering anything for Harden. It makes less sense than someone offering up a trade for LeBron or Curry. Waste of energy.
You are probably right. Just saying that Harden was not deemed untouchable if you beleive a source.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:32 pm
by snore
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:52 pm
thinktank wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:42 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:41 pm

I am not a Laker fan, so I am not sure why you dwell on this. The Lakers ALWAYS have the ability to rebuild fast. They have been hindered by the ownership transition and bad management. I think if Jerry Buss dies in 2015, James goes to LA instead of Cleveland. But with his death the entire ownership situation became a shambles.

The Lakers are the premiere franchise in the league. They have by far the most revenue, enhanced by a local media contract that brings in more than $150 million per year. They can spend on guys and not give a shit about the luxury taxes. Players WANT to be in LA and being a Laker has significant additional financial and other benefits. Competent ownership and front office would have changed things faster with teh post-Kobe Lakers.
:lol:

Classic, Mlhouse.

You were waaaay off Mlhouse.

By several years.
Snore.
You rang?

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:34 pm
by mlhouse
snore wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:32 pm
mlhouse wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:52 pm
thinktank wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:42 pm

:lol:

Classic, Mlhouse.

You were waaaay off Mlhouse.

By several years.
Snore.
You rang?
I did not call for Lerch.

Re: CP3 Has Demanded Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:13 am
by flexbuffchest
Seems no team in the league wants that contract.

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