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Wolves possibly looking to move up for Garland
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I mean, that is the coaching staffs job.....to do everything you can to get any players light on. We've added a ton of coaching talent and clearly Wiggins and Ryan are buds. I've not written him off, and I don't know if a change of scenery helps him or not. But for this team to be a playoff team, Wiggins has to consistently better. A consistent Wiggins makes up for losing Roco. I like to gamble, and I like the FO moves Rosas has made....so I would make this trade. I would assume we get back a swing like Hill or Johnson as well. Then you move try to move Teague or Tyus to the Suns since they have no PG.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:49 amIs it possible the new assistant coaches can design an offensive that focuses on Wiggins strengths? I feel like someday the light will turn on for him but it will be for a different team.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:46 amConsidering the amount of holes this team has, I never needed a signal that the playoffs were happening next year. Just because GS took a hit in now way makes the West all of the sudden easy. Even adding Dlo, Portland and the Nugs are legit, LA finally is respectable, the Clips already were and will most likely add. Despite turmoil, the Rox are a 50 win team....and the Jazz just upgraded themselves. Dallas has a healthy KP now.....whatever move we make, adding Garland or Dlo, we still have a lot of work to do to be thinking about even an 8th seed. The only thing that makes us jump into the real mix is if Andrew Wiggins flips on some switch that most of us believe he doesn't have.
Garland/Tyus or Teague
Wiggins
Oki/Johnson or Hill
Saric/Dieng/Diop
KAT/Dieng
On a side note, anyone know where the fuck Patton is at?
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I think it's going to be easier for us to find a replacement 3&D guy than it is for us to find another star, so I don't think we can afford to not make Covington available if we ever want to grow into a championship contending team.
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It's all predicated on if you trust Rosas or not. Do you trust that he believes his new coaching staff will finally get Wiggins lit, that they'll get Oki to take the next step. Do you believe in his belief that Garland looks like and will turn into Dame? If you trust these things, if you trust him....it doesn't feel shocking at all.
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Patton last seen working out for Jazz earlier this month
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Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
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Ahhh.....glad he's still kicking it.Southpaw23 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:05 am Patton last seen working out for Jazz earlier this month
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If that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
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If we move up to take Garland and the price is only Homie, something is very wrong with this world. Or right actually...
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Because he's the plus. As in it's a future pick plus Saric.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 amIf that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
RoCo never made any sense anyway. They just traded for their 3 of the future.
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if we get to keep Roco and send Saric off then im all boner on this one. What is NO thinking?
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I'm at work, so I haven't seen anything on TV, just tweets. So did he say it's 11, Saric, plus a future 1st?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:10 amBecause he's the plus. As in it's a future pick plus Saric.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 amIf that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
RoCo never made any sense anyway. They just traded for their 3 of the future.
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That's what doogie said yesterdaydigitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:11 amI'm at work, so I haven't seen anything on TV, just tweets. So did he say it's 11, Saric, plus a future 1st?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:10 amBecause he's the plus. As in it's a future pick plus Saric.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 am
If that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.
RoCo never made any sense anyway. They just traded for their 3 of the future.
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He was just on with Max and Steven A.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:11 amI'm at work, so I haven't seen anything on TV, just tweets. So did he say it's 11, Saric, plus a future 1st?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:10 amBecause he's the plus. As in it's a future pick plus Saric.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 am
If that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.
RoCo never made any sense anyway. They just traded for their 3 of the future.
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Doogie also put out a poll an hour ago saying #4/Hill for Covington/#11Southpaw23 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:13 amThat's what doogie said yesterdaydigitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:11 amI'm at work, so I haven't seen anything on TV, just tweets. So did he say it's 11, Saric, plus a future 1st?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:10 am
Because he's the plus. As in it's a future pick plus Saric.
RoCo never made any sense anyway. They just traded for their 3 of the future.
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Keep in mind, Pels are waiting to see what Knicks do.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 amIf that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
My guess is Rosas is including protected first if Saric is the player.
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Roco is better, but Taj isn't coming back so having Saric was literally our only PF. I guess there's Diop? Is a Dieng/Diop/KAT/possible 2nd rounder okay enough. I know we're fucked when it comes to rim protection. I still make that deal though so as long as the future is heavy protected. And I'd still want Hill or Johnson in return. Maybe Teague or Tyus could snag us a big?Southpaw23 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:13 amThat's what doogie said yesterdaydigitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:11 amI'm at work, so I haven't seen anything on TV, just tweets. So did he say it's 11, Saric, plus a future 1st?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:10 am
Because he's the plus. As in it's a future pick plus Saric.
RoCo never made any sense anyway. They just traded for their 3 of the future.
Would it be possible to do a Teague/Whiteside swap? I know he makes more, but I don't know if there's anything there to make that work.
Garland/Tyus
Wiggins/Oki
Roco/Oki/ Hill or Johnson
KAT/Diop
Whiteside/Dieng
Me like.....scoring and defense, oh my!
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It’s the Wolves. I’ve been conditioned to not trust anything our management ever does.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:04 amIt's all predicated on if you trust Rosas or not. Do you trust that he believes his new coaching staff will finally get Wiggins lit, that they'll get Oki to take the next step. Do you believe in his belief that Garland looks like and will turn into Dame? If you trust these things, if you trust him....it doesn't feel shocking at all.
All I can say is that Cov is fucking cheap compared to what he gives you when he’s on the floor. Giving him up is a hard pill to swallow for someone unproven like Garland.
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Exactly....Knicks can fuck everything up if they take Garland.jimmyjamjammer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:18 amKeep in mind, Pels are waiting to see what Knicks do.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 amIf that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
My guess is Rosas is including protected first if Saric is the player.
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Knicks will not take Garland #3. If they did, there would be an even larger bidding war to get to Barrett at #4 than Garland at #4.
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Whiteside & Johnson for Teague and Dieng works..digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:01 amI mean, that is the coaching staffs job.....to do everything you can to get any players light on. We've added a ton of coaching talent and clearly Wiggins and Ryan are buds. I've not written him off, and I don't know if a change of scenery helps him or not. But for this team to be a playoff team, Wiggins has to consistently better. A consistent Wiggins makes up for losing Roco. I like to gamble, and I like the FO moves Rosas has made....so I would make this trade. I would assume we get back a swing like Hill or Johnson as well. Then you move try to move Teague or Tyus to the Suns since they have no PG.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:49 amIs it possible the new assistant coaches can design an offensive that focuses on Wiggins strengths? I feel like someday the light will turn on for him but it will be for a different team.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:46 am
Considering the amount of holes this team has, I never needed a signal that the playoffs were happening next year. Just because GS took a hit in now way makes the West all of the sudden easy. Even adding Dlo, Portland and the Nugs are legit, LA finally is respectable, the Clips already were and will most likely add. Despite turmoil, the Rox are a 50 win team....and the Jazz just upgraded themselves. Dallas has a healthy KP now.....whatever move we make, adding Garland or Dlo, we still have a lot of work to do to be thinking about even an 8th seed. The only thing that makes us jump into the real mix is if Andrew Wiggins flips on some switch that most of us believe he doesn't have.
Garland/Tyus or Teague
Wiggins
Oki/Johnson or Hill
Saric/Dieng/Diop
KAT/Dieng
On a side note, anyone know where the fuck Patton is at?
Saves the heat over 7.2 MM$
Aren't they In the lux too? That's a boatload of savings.
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Re: Wolves possibly looking to move up for Garland
Yes that's a no doubter.digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 amIf that's the cost, then the deal should already have been done.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am Windy just said It's Saric not Roco. It was like getting a blow job on a roller coaster when he said it.
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They are.....but they have a lot of expirings coming this year and next. Not sure if they'd bite on Dieng....but I would seriously love that team. We haven't had a shot blocker since the shell of Theo Ratliff rolled up in here.Southpaw23 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:28 amWhiteside & Johnson for Teague and Dieng works..digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:01 amI mean, that is the coaching staffs job.....to do everything you can to get any players light on. We've added a ton of coaching talent and clearly Wiggins and Ryan are buds. I've not written him off, and I don't know if a change of scenery helps him or not. But for this team to be a playoff team, Wiggins has to consistently better. A consistent Wiggins makes up for losing Roco. I like to gamble, and I like the FO moves Rosas has made....so I would make this trade. I would assume we get back a swing like Hill or Johnson as well. Then you move try to move Teague or Tyus to the Suns since they have no PG.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:49 am
Is it possible the new assistant coaches can design an offensive that focuses on Wiggins strengths? I feel like someday the light will turn on for him but it will be for a different team.
Garland/Tyus or Teague
Wiggins
Oki/Johnson or Hill
Saric/Dieng/Diop
KAT/Dieng
On a side note, anyone know where the fuck Patton is at?
Saves the heat over 7.2 MM$
Aren't they In the lux too? That's a boatload of savings.
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digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:34 amThey are.....but they have a lot of expirings coming this year and next. Not sure if they'd bite on Dieng....but I would seriously love that team. We haven't had a shot blocker since the shell of Theo Ratliff rolled up in here.Southpaw23 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:28 amWhiteside & Johnson for Teague and Dieng works..digitalwolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:01 am
I mean, that is the coaching staffs job.....to do everything you can to get any players light on. We've added a ton of coaching talent and clearly Wiggins and Ryan are buds. I've not written him off, and I don't know if a change of scenery helps him or not. But for this team to be a playoff team, Wiggins has to consistently better. A consistent Wiggins makes up for losing Roco. I like to gamble, and I like the FO moves Rosas has made....so I would make this trade. I would assume we get back a swing like Hill or Johnson as well. Then you move try to move Teague or Tyus to the Suns since they have no PG.
Garland/Tyus or Teague
Wiggins
Oki/Johnson or Hill
Saric/Dieng/Diop
KAT/Dieng
On a side note, anyone know where the fuck Patton is at?
Saves the heat over 7.2 MM$
Aren't they In the lux too? That's a boatload of savings.
Dieng and Johnson have an almost identical deal, so that's equal, One could argue Johnson had a worse '18-'19 and is ~3 years older
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I don't want anything to do that involves moving RoCo. Good team guy, solid ball player, great contract. He needs to stay on this roster.
Let's get Tropical
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James Johnson can barely play basketball at this point. He came back from his hernia about 8 years older. He and Whiteside are pure garbage. I wouldn't deal Teague and Gorgui for them ever if there wasn't a large money difference in our favor. Whiteside is toxic and he can stay away from here and watch 2nd halves from another team's bench.