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Can the new coaches save Wiggins?

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Can the new coaches save Wiggins?

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I'm getting sick of all this talk about how we have to trade Andrew Wiggins because he sucks when he sucks so bad he's so horrible. what do you think happens when you trade him at the lowest point in his career you get nothing but trash in return obviously so we can talk all day about trade Wiggins trade Wiggins trade Wiggins but we're not getting anything back what the heck is the point?!?

Our only hope is that we cross our fingers and hope the new staff members turn it around with his God given athleticism.
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Groundbreaking work as always t_wrex!!!
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i'm going to say yes-yes they can.
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I would refer you to the end of last year.
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If he can’t make it with this new skilled collection of NBA coaches, he never will.
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If they can they deserve a bust in front of both Target Center and the NBA HOF
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flexbuffchest wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:44 am If they can they deserve a bust in front of both Target Center and the NBA HOF
Could you imagine if they could take the guy who averaged 23.5 and turned him into a guy who could maybe average like ...........23 points? Wow! HOF for that right?
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Thrillkill wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:37 am I would refer you to the end of last year.
What, a whopping 11 or 12 games of evidence? He's done that before.

Wiggins problem is between his ears. He doesn't care about winning and it shows on the court. How do you coach someone to be a winner?
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It’s on Wiggins at this point, not the new front office or coaching staff. If he goes back to getting to the FT line more and stops taking long contested 2s that would be a significant development.
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No
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Consistency makes a great player.
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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:22 am It’s on Wiggins at this point, not the new front office or coaching staff. If he goes back to getting to the FT line more and stops taking long contested 2s that would be a significant development.
While I am not going to state that Wiggins doesn't have his faults, but the real sad fact is that Andrew Wiggins taking long contested 2s was often the best shot opportunity for the Wolves for the past several years.

Our offense lacks spacing and movement, and at the very bottom, skills.

AS far as drawing FTs, I have never seen a player that the officials allow so much contact on. Towns might be in 2nd place. Those guys are absolutely murdered almost every time they get close to the basket. Yet, play goes on. If your pinky finger somehow comes close to a player like Jimmy Butler, the official calls a foul. It is disgusting that the officiating in the NBA is based so much on favoritism.

I think Andrew needs to come in and put the work in. WHile he has all the skills in the world, every one of them can be improved. He needs to put the energy into the defensive game and become the significant defender he has the potential to become. He needs to work on all levels of his shooting, including free throws. He can become an elite player. Anyone that claims their isn't evidence of this is just being willfully ignorant. He needs to put it together though. And that is the question.
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This seems to be some type of quasi-positive Wiggins thread??!!

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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:22 am It’s on Wiggins at this point, not the new front office or coaching staff. If he goes back to getting to the FT line more and stops taking long contested 2s that would be a significant development.
The Thibs regime impeded his development imo. I'd say since their inception there has been no franchise as bad with player development as the Wolves.
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Is the new regime the Wizard of Oz? Because Wiggins needs a heart, brains, and courage. You can't teach those things.
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JoeBagO'Donuts wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:34 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:22 am It’s on Wiggins at this point, not the new front office or coaching staff. If he goes back to getting to the FT line more and stops taking long contested 2s that would be a significant development.
The Thibs regime impeded his development imo. I'd say since their inception there has been no franchise as bad with player development as the Wolves.
I don’t think you can blame Thibideau for everything. Sometimes it’s just on the player. Maybe Butler put him in an uncomfortable position but most good players just adapt. I’m not in the camp that he’s done and you just boo him him until the end of time, but I’m also not in the camp of giving him excuses that other players don’t get. We’ll see. It would be awesome if he came in and played well.
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jffl_commish wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:51 pm Is the new regime the Wizard of Oz? Because Wiggins needs a heart, brains, and courage. You can't teach those things.
That fucker has a lot of courage given the way he is smeared everytime he goes to the basket.
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Maybe if you can ban him from Fortnite and weed during the season
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morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:20 pm Maybe if you can ban him from Fortnite and weed during the season
Is that a problem for him?

I have a question to weed users.... do you know that you stink to high heaven? Does it even matter to you?
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mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:51 pm
morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:20 pm Maybe if you can ban him from Fortnite and weed during the season
Is that a problem for him?
Thats what Raps fans/Toronto people told me when I told them he will replace Kawhi.
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morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:01 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:51 pm
morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:20 pm Maybe if you can ban him from Fortnite and weed during the season
Is that a problem for him?
Thats what Raps fans/Toronto people told me when I told them he will replace Kawhi.
What do you think a Wiggins trade to the Raptors would look like?
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mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:08 pm
morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:01 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:51 pm

Is that a problem for him?
Thats what Raps fans/Toronto people told me when I told them he will replace Kawhi.
What do you think a Wiggins trade to the Raptors would look like?
Not much, probably OG Anuboy and Ibaka
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morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:49 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:08 pm
morneaumvp wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:01 pm

Thats what Raps fans/Toronto people told me when I told them he will replace Kawhi.
What do you think a Wiggins trade to the Raptors would look like?
Not much, probably OG Anuboy and Ibaka
Yeah, no. That is Anunoby for Wiggins. No way I do that and knowing how it works with the Wolves, that would end up being one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history.

I think for 2019-20 and 2020-21 we need to see how far we can take the Wiggins-Towns combination. I think with the right coaching and scheme it can at least make a foundation of a decent team. And if it doesn't, it doesn't After two seasons of Ryan Saunders and the new FO we can then reevaluate.
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Go to the rim.

Million dollar coaching advice right there. Where's my contract?
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YBBR wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:46 pm Go to the rim.

Million dollar coaching advice right there. Where's my contract?
You realize that going to the rim isn't always possible, right?
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mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:04 pm
YBBR wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:46 pm Go to the rim.

Million dollar coaching advice right there. Where's my contract?
You realize that going to the rim isn't always possible, right?
You do realize that it is possible to pass?
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flexbuffchest wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:04 pm
YBBR wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:46 pm Go to the rim.

Million dollar coaching advice right there. Where's my contract?
You realize that going to the rim isn't always possible, right?
You do realize that it is possible to pass?
TO WHOM?
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mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:14 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:04 pm

You realize that going to the rim isn't always possible, right?
You do realize that it is possible to pass?
TO WHOM?
Anyone. An open shot is always better than a terrible shooter taking a terrible shot.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:15 pm
mlhouse wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:14 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 pm

You do realize that it is possible to pass?
TO WHOM?
Anyone. An open shot is always better than a terrible shooter taking a terrible shot.
The contested long 2s were better than passing the ball to Ricky Rubio or Dieng. And, just because the defense collapsed on Wiggins or Towns does not mean we had an "open shot" since our spacing and offensive movement is outstandingly terrible.
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