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Wolves in on D'Angelo Russell?
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Brooklyn also has Allen Crabbe who pulled a Jeff Teague and opted in for about 19 million dollars, despite having only one knee. They are going to reward somebody for taking him off their books so that they can sign the rest of their next team.
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
MN will gladly take him if they want Wiggins and other stuff for him and Russell (would have to be two separate deals).irishman89 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:16 pm Brooklyn also has Allen Crabbe who pulled a Jeff Teague and opted in for about 19 million dollars, despite having only one knee. They are going to reward somebody for taking him off their books so that they can sign the rest of their next team.
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
I would trade away Covington to get Russell. Russell has more upside.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:00 pmCovington and Towns are off limits for me when it comes to Russell.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:49 pmOh definitely don't think anything will happen right away, just saying the Wolves have plenty of assets that would be interesting in a sign and trade.
Hell put Covington on that list too
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Agreed. Obviously he is the one other guy than Kat I would like to keep but if it had to be done, I would pull the trigger.qrocks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:32 pmI would trade away Covington to get Russell. Russell has more upside.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:00 pmCovington and Towns are off limits for me when it comes to Russell.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:49 pm
Oh definitely don't think anything will happen right away, just saying the Wolves have plenty of assets that would be interesting in a sign and trade.
Hell put Covington on that list too
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Hopefully Covington is healthy again someday. He's still dealing with the worst knee bruise in history. I'd move him in the right deal. It would take a lot though.
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He's still dealing with it? If he's not fully healthy when training camp rolls around... uh ohirishman89 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:37 pm Hopefully Covington is healthy again someday. He's still dealing with the worst knee bruise in history. I'd move him in the right deal. It would take a lot though.
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
Read in the Strib he was still rehabbing as of last week,Teague was also in town rehabbing his injury from last season as well.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:18 pmHe's still dealing with it? If he's not fully healthy when training camp rolls around... uh ohirishman89 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:37 pm Hopefully Covington is healthy again someday. He's still dealing with the worst knee bruise in history. I'd move him in the right deal. It would take a lot though.
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My blood is boiling again.
I don't think I'll ever get over it.
Remember we also had Baron Davis rumoured to be coming here for Cassell?
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
If they think or know they can hook Irving and KD, there's really no reason not to move him. But I have no idea what they actually want/need? Teague+11th would have to be the starting point. I didn't like Rusell coming out, then his super stupid move in LA plus some knee injuries made me kind of write him off, but kind of like Rose, his play won me over. I just don't see us as trade partners, but it's tough because who knows what they are getting into as of July 1st. If I'm any FA, I'd pick Brooklyn over the Knicks. Good coach, good FO, and already a playoff team with not the most talent in the league.
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This deal seems like it isn’t gonna work out. Too much needs to go right.
I prefer it.
I’d rather trade down with Brooklyn.
They need the space.
Reach a little for that Florida State PF and/or grab the best wing/PG you can.
I prefer it.
I’d rather trade down with Brooklyn.
They need the space.
Reach a little for that Florida State PF and/or grab the best wing/PG you can.
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If we trade down you shouldn't be thinking PG at all, frankly if we stay put we shouldn't be thinking PG either unless one of White or Garland is there. Next year in a deeper PG draft seems the more reasonable expectation to address PG. We could take a potential future backup in the second, but lets see who if anyone slips first.
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Why does Brooklyn need more space? They only have ~49 million guaranteed on the books. They can already give out two max contracts and be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/yearly/cap/
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They'd have like a 6 man roster (other than scrap) if they let everyone go and sign 2 max guys. I still can't believe they can run a smart rebuild like they have and then fuck it all for Kyrie. They have a young allstar PG and breakout PG Dinwiddie behind him making 10 mil and they are going to sign Kyrie?flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:33 amWhy does Brooklyn need more space? They only have ~49 million guaranteed on the books. They can already give out two max contracts and be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/yearly/cap/
As to Tank wanting to trade back with them I've been wanting that for months. But I'd still rather send the Saric for those picks but getting Dinwiddie would be cool too. Have to see if there's a way to do that cap wise with Saric only making like half of him.
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It's gonna be fucking hilarious if Kyrie and Durant go to Brooklyn and the Knicks end up with jackshit.
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That's kind of the Knicks every year...cocky fan base, who think everyone wants to play there...they claim to be the "Mecca of basketball" but year in and year out, they remain awful. Most delusional fanbase in the NBA
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
True, but they need to field a good roster and if they get Kyrie, they have to parlay Russell into some of those other pieces.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:33 amWhy does Brooklyn need more space? They only have ~49 million guaranteed on the books. They can already give out two max contracts and be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/yearly/cap/
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
Absolutely.qrocks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:32 pmI would trade away Covington to get Russell. Russell has more upside.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:00 pmCovington and Towns are off limits for me when it comes to Russell.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:49 pm
Oh definitely don't think anything will happen right away, just saying the Wolves have plenty of assets that would be interesting in a sign and trade.
Hell put Covington on that list too
Cov is a nice trade chip. Russell should've been the #1 target for Butler even before he had his big year.
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I actually think that the Nets have a really solid foundation of role players. Having Dinwiddie, Levert and Allen as role players next to Kyrie and another max FA (Butler or KD??) Is a very attractive scenario.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:46 amThey'd have like a 6 man roster (other than scrap) if they let everyone go and sign 2 max guys. I still can't believe they can run a smart rebuild like they have and then fuck it all for Kyrie. They have a young allstar PG and breakout PG Dinwiddie behind him making 10 mil and they are going to sign Kyrie?flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:33 amWhy does Brooklyn need more space? They only have ~49 million guaranteed on the books. They can already give out two max contracts and be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/yearly/cap/
As to Tank wanting to trade back with them I've been wanting that for months. But I'd still rather send the Saric for those picks but getting Dinwiddie would be cool too. Have to see if there's a way to do that cap wise with Saric only making like half of him.
It's impossible to say what they'd be able to get if they trade Russell so I won't even go there but the Nets do have some legitimate players under contract to play next to a couple of max contact guys.
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The problem with signing Kyrie and dealing Russel is if they sign Kyrie they will need to sign another and then sign and trade Russel. But what if he doesn't play along? What if they get 5 great offers and he says screw that I don't want to go there? Then they have to take what they can get or match an offer and go into lux. Then they can't trade him for a year.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:42 pmI actually think that the Nets have a really solid foundation of role players. Having Dinwiddie, Levert and Allen as role players next to Kyrie and another max FA (Butler or KD??) Is a very attractive scenario.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:46 amThey'd have like a 6 man roster (other than scrap) if they let everyone go and sign 2 max guys. I still can't believe they can run a smart rebuild like they have and then fuck it all for Kyrie. They have a young allstar PG and breakout PG Dinwiddie behind him making 10 mil and they are going to sign Kyrie?flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:33 am
Why does Brooklyn need more space? They only have ~49 million guaranteed on the books. They can already give out two max contracts and be fine.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/yearly/cap/
As to Tank wanting to trade back with them I've been wanting that for months. But I'd still rather send the Saric for those picks but getting Dinwiddie would be cool too. Have to see if there's a way to do that cap wise with Saric only making like half of him.
It's impossible to say what they'd be able to get if they trade Russell so I won't even go there but the Nets do have some legitimate players under contract to play next to a couple of max contact guys.
I get their plan all along was move to Brooklyn, clear the space and buy big. But they have done really nice things along the way and have 2 1sts and the 1st pick in the 2nd. They should stay the course, get one good up and comer FA and play the long game. They are already a playoff team and one of the youngest.
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Anybody wonder why they are shopping him around?
Also I find it kind of odd that Towns is the only one of the top 4 picks still with the team that drafted him.
Also I find it kind of odd that Towns is the only one of the top 4 picks still with the team that drafted him.
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I don't think they are. I think Stephen A put out the Kyrie rumor and all the stuff from there is speculation. Our's being entirely that he and Towns are friends. Plus Russel to me is at least as much a 2. They could play him there but have others at that spot. If I was there I'd match any offer and wait until next year to spend when Dinwiddie will be an easily move expiring and I think 2 other big money guys are done. Plus they could easily make a huge deal at the deadline. They'd probably be in the best position in the league to star hunt through trade.
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
Oh I'm good...irishman89 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:16 pm Brooklyn also has Allen Crabbe who pulled a Jeff Teague and opted in for about 19 million dollars, despite having only one knee. They are going to reward somebody for taking him off their books so that they can sign the rest of their next team.
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Re: Wolves in on D'Angelo Rusell?
Yeah I don't think they'd make this move without knowing for sure one guy is coming.
Good news for Russell suitors
Good news for Russell suitors
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Good call. That's like what 9 mil or so?irishman89 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:45 pmOh I'm good...irishman89 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:16 pm Brooklyn also has Allen Crabbe who pulled a Jeff Teague and opted in for about 19 million dollars, despite having only one knee. They are going to reward somebody for taking him off their books so that they can sign the rest of their next team.
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I think it may be the opposite. Could allow them to spend on 2 and still match an offer to Russell.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:48 pm Yeah I don't think they'd make this move without knowing for sure one guy is coming.
Good news for Russell suitors
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I think they'd do a sign and trade in that spot. I think they know Kyrie is coming and I have a hard time seeing them pair up.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:51 pmI think it may be the opposite. Could allow them to spend on 2 and still match an offer to Russell.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:48 pm Yeah I don't think they'd make this move without knowing for sure one guy is coming.
Good news for Russell suitors
But Wolves are still in a tough spot and their best position is probably to sit and wait. If they were to offer a contract and the Nets matched then they couldn't do a sign and trade with them.
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Not saying they wouldn't want to but what if the offers are shit and their maneuvering gives them room under the lux? Russell is as much 2 as PG. Why would they straight cut bait for squat if they don't have to?OliverMiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:53 pmI think they'd do a sign and trade in that spot. I think they know Kyrie is coming and I have a hard time seeing them pair up.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:51 pmI think it may be the opposite. Could allow them to spend on 2 and still match an offer to Russell.OliverMiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:48 pm Yeah I don't think they'd make this move without knowing for sure one guy is coming.
Good news for Russell suitors
But Wolves are still in a tough spot and their best position is probably to sit and wait. If they were to offer a contract and the Nets matched then they couldn't do a sign and trade with them.
They have to wait 1 year to trade him if they match. They also get him for less and only 4 instead of 5. Then they'd get a lot more for him.
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Fair points but with Kyrie I don't think there is any fit.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:58 pmNot saying they wouldn't want to but what if the offers are shit and their maneuvering gives them room under the lux? Russell is as much 2 as PG. Why would they straight cut bait for squat if they don't have to?OliverMiller wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:53 pmI think they'd do a sign and trade in that spot. I think they know Kyrie is coming and I have a hard time seeing them pair up.Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:51 pm
I think it may be the opposite. Could allow them to spend on 2 and still match an offer to Russell.
But Wolves are still in a tough spot and their best position is probably to sit and wait. If they were to offer a contract and the Nets matched then they couldn't do a sign and trade with them.
They have to wait 1 year to trade him if they match. They also get him for less and only 4 instead of 5. Then they'd get a lot more for him.
They'd be better off moving him if they are committing to Kyrie for fit reasons. And there are plenty of teams that would give up assets. At minimum probably the player taken by the Suns.