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Conley-Rubio-Teague

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Would you do this trade?

Yes, win win for all
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No, Teague is bad but Rubio is worse
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It will never happen, but Malcolm Brogdon is the perfect PG for this team.
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j2j wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:53 am It will never happen, but Malcolm Brogdon is the perfect PG for this team.
Somebody is going to make MIL match a big ass contract.
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"When free agency comes, now that the season is over, I can start thinking and see where I want to go, where I can go," Rubio said. "But one thing I'm gonna look [at] for sure is the best situation for me, with the coach and the team. … I want to be happy. I'm gonna try to find the best situation for me to perform and be happy.
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Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
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We need shooters if we are looking at Ricky. He just doesn't doesnt fit this team
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:02 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
Does it matter if it's only a single year that you could maybe use at trade deadline?
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Moses Scurry wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:03 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:02 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
Does it matter if it's only a single year that you could maybe use at trade deadline?
Expiring contracts are valuable in some aspects but to a shitty team that probably wants to clear money off their books? Doubt that helps them. There's a reason I'd circle Toronto and Charlotte for Wiggins potential deals -- they have big contracts on their books they might look to move to get something else when they're already over the cap and are stuck without cap flexibility. In Toronto's case Kawhi would have to leave.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:02 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
If they get Teague’s expiring, added with their two own in Parson’s and Jonas, they would have 60+ million free next season
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:02 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
This. Why would Utah just not trade send their first for Conley. Teague adds negative value lol.

Thank god we won't be going down this road anyway.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:18 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:02 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:09 pm Utah writer said Conley is still the Jazz’s top priority but they don’t have the contracts to match for a trade.

Time for my scenario to start the wheels churning.

Jazz 1st, Teague Grizz
S&T Rubio to MN
Conley to Utah
If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
This. Why would Utah just not trade send their first for Conley. Teague adds negative value lol.

Thank god we won't be going down this road anyway.
They don't have the cap space to absorb Conley straight up.
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Just watching Ricky kick our ass all over the court just reminds me how far we have fallen from a capable PG who can run the team.

He just showed he's still levels above Tyus in their match up.
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rubio has the fatal flaw that will forever reduce his value and his impact. this year he shot a tidge better than his career average - 40% instead of 39%. but he managed to shoot a tidge worse from three - 31% down a point from his career 32%. these are really, really crappy numbers. i feel for the guy. but he can't shoot and that will forever be the curse of what could have been a great career. imagine the difference if his career percentages had just been 44% and 35% instead.
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:27 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:18 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:02 pm

If I'm Memphis, I'd rather have the pick and nothing else to take back.
This. Why would Utah just not trade send their first for Conley. Teague adds negative value lol.

Thank god we won't be going down this road anyway.
They don't have the cap space to absorb Conley straight up.
I thought they can get to like 35ish mil in cap space.

They're at like 92 with Favors and a bunch of the other non guaranteed deals.
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HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:41 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:27 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:18 pm

This. Why would Utah just not trade send their first for Conley. Teague adds negative value lol.

Thank god we won't be going down this road anyway.
They don't have the cap space to absorb Conley straight up.
I thought they can get to like 35ish mil in cap space.

They're at like 92 with Favors and a bunch of the other non guaranteed deals.
They would have to release Korver and Favors to be at that 30 million range
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:05 am
HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:41 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:27 pm

They don't have the cap space to absorb Conley straight up.
I thought they can get to like 35ish mil in cap space.

They're at like 92 with Favors and a bunch of the other non guaranteed deals.
They would have to release Korver and Favors to be at that 30 million range
Easy $$$.
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HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:20 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:05 am
HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:41 am
I thought they can get to like 35ish mil in cap space.

They're at like 92 with Favors and a bunch of the other non guaranteed deals.
They would have to release Korver and Favors to be at that 30 million range
Easy $$$.
By then what assets do you have to trade for Conley. A mid 20’s pick won’t do it.
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:22 am
HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:20 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:05 am

They would have to release Korver and Favors to be at that 30 million range
Easy $$$.
By then what assets do you have to trade for Conley. A mid 20’s pick won’t do it.
A protected first + Exum for Conley. Memphis' goal is to clear $$$$.
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HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:22 am
HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:20 am
Easy $$$.
By then what assets do you have to trade for Conley. A mid 20’s pick won’t do it.
A protected first + Exum for Conley. Memphis' goal is to clear $$$$.
Don’t think you need to protect a first when it’s in the mid 20’s already bro lol
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UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:25 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 am
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:22 am

By then what assets do you have to trade for Conley. A mid 20’s pick won’t do it.
A protected first + Exum for Conley. Memphis' goal is to clear $$$$.
Don’t think you need to protect a first when it’s in the mid 20’s already bro lol
Meant it as a future pick so they can keep this year's if they want... and Memphis would prefer to roll the dice on a future pick being better of course.
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HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:30 pm
UnFadeable21 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:25 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:42 am
A protected first + Exum for Conley. Memphis' goal is to clear $$$$.
Don’t think you need to protect a first when it’s in the mid 20’s already bro lol
Meant it as a future pick so they can keep this year's if they want... and Memphis would prefer to roll the dice on a future pick being better of course.
Don’t know how Utah gets worse with Conley.
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Remember when Wiggins wasn't god awful, and actually looked like an extremely promising prospect, so much so that he got a max deal?


That was because of one Ricky Rubio. Say what you want about him, but that's a fact.
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whiskerbiscuit wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:01 pm Remember when Wiggins wasn't god awful, and actually looked like an extremely promising prospect, so much so that he got a max deal?


That was because of one Ricky Rubio. Say what you want about him, but that's a fact.
Good to know the $30m a year player who the fate of the franchise should be resting upon for the next half decade needs his hand held by brick laying, one dimensional point guard.
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T_J wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:06 pm
whiskerbiscuit wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:01 pm Remember when Wiggins wasn't god awful, and actually looked like an extremely promising prospect, so much so that he got a max deal?


That was because of one Ricky Rubio. Say what you want about him, but that's a fact.
Good to know the $30m a year player who the fate of the franchise should be resting upon for the next half decade needs his hand held by brick laying, one dimensional point guard.
Wiggins is a turd, but it's indisputable that he was exponentially better when Rubio was setting him up.


How many dementions does Jeff Teague have? He's a shit defender that doesn't make anyone better and for more money than Ricky. Bringing back the Spaniard isn't my first preference but it wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
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T_J wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:06 pm
whiskerbiscuit wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:01 pm Remember when Wiggins wasn't god awful, and actually looked like an extremely promising prospect, so much so that he got a max deal?


That was because of one Ricky Rubio. Say what you want about him, but that's a fact.
Good to know the $30m a year player who the fate of the franchise should be resting upon for the next half decade needs his hand held by brick laying, one dimensional point guard.
If it made him and us better why do you care? If you don't like broccoli and it makes him better do you care if he eats it?
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I'd take Ricky back in a heartbeat over what we have now. Just surround him with shooters. You can win a title with him and a solid backup that can shoot.

Never should have gotten rid of him to begin with, especially for Turd Teague and 5 extra mil. Certainly should have drafted Turd Dunn to replace him.


Biscuit's plan of

Ricky
Murray or Hield
Wiggins
Markaanen
Towns

And whatever we could get for Lavine would look damn nice right now.


Fuck Thibs.
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whiskerbiscuit wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:31 pm I'd take Ricky back in a heartbeat over what we have now. Just surround him with shooters. You can win a title with him and a solid backup that can shoot.

Never should have gotten rid of him to begin with, especially for Turd Teague and 5 extra mil. Certainly should have drafted Turd Dunn to replace him.


Biscuit's plan of

Ricky
Murray or Hield
Wiggins
Markaanen
Towns

And whatever we could get for Lavine would look damn nice right now.


Fuck Thibs.
Thibbs was like a totally irrational fanboy when it came to Butler. He put on the blinders when he got here and used almost every asset the Wolves had in his attempts to get Butler from the moment he got here. Thibbs didn’t stop to consider the reality that Butler really never wanted to come here. Just because Butler liked Thibbs didn’t mean he was going to like Minnesota.

To his credit, he did get Butler. In the end though watching how Thibbs lied to Butler and hid information from the Timberwolves organization was easily one of most pathetic, sad and unprofessional things I had ever seen. He 100% earned his shitcanning.

Now here we are......Rosas and Saunders get to fix it. So many things are going to have to fall into place for these guys to succeed, and with this organization’s record of ineptitude and bad luck.......it’s really hard to have any confidence in them pulling this off.

I am hoping for the best though.

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whiskerbiscuit wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:31 pm I'd take Ricky back in a heartbeat over what we have now. Just surround him with shooters. You can win a title with him and a solid backup that can shoot.

Never should have gotten rid of him to begin with, especially for Turd Teague and 5 extra mil. Certainly should have drafted Turd Dunn to replace him.


Biscuit's plan of

Ricky
Murray or Hield
Wiggins
Markaanen
Towns

And whatever we could get for Lavine would look damn nice right now.


Fuck Thibs.
That team is so bad on D I think it gave me cancer.
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Thrillkill wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:12 pm
whiskerbiscuit wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:31 pm I'd take Ricky back in a heartbeat over what we have now. Just surround him with shooters. You can win a title with him and a solid backup that can shoot.

Never should have gotten rid of him to begin with, especially for Turd Teague and 5 extra mil. Certainly should have drafted Turd Dunn to replace him.


Biscuit's plan of

Ricky
Murray or Hield
Wiggins
Markaanen
Towns

And whatever we could get for Lavine would look damn nice right now.


Fuck Thibs.
That team is so bad on D I think it gave me cancer.
For sure.


Still a much more promising squad than what we're looking at. Thibs' scorched Earth policy will cost us Towns. I'm certain of it.
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Here is what the Spanish guard said, per Marca:

“It will be very fun because I’m able to choose between many teams. But it depends on many factors because there will be many free players that will determine how the market will go. Any movement will affect the market and there will be a domino effect.

It depends on some movements in the market but that doesn’t mean that I have to settle for what is left. There are options that will remain and I can choose.

There are teams that have a starting point guard with a contract, which I can forget, but there are others who are looking for a point guard.

The priorities are to go to a team that has importance and minutes and is set for the playoffs. This already rules out some teams.”
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