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Rosas is new PBO...Country Club is DEAD!
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Re: Rosas is new PBO...Country Club is DEAD!
Silly to think he wouldn't bring in people he's familiar with.
Curious on the title, though. Assistant GM? Does that mean Layden is still the Head GM? I'm assuming for the foreseeable future, but how long until the switch is made?
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I think Layden and Saunders are two important parts of their mediocre plan. Until rebuild 2021.
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Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.
I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out
But this is Minnesota
I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out
But this is Minnesota
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Rosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:02 am Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.
I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out
But this is Minnesota
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I'm assuming that Layden wont be with this organization past this upcoming year and the only reason he wasn't let go was to let Rosas have some time to evaluate him, evaluate this team and hire a coach before the draft came around.
Now that Saunders is our full time head coach having Layden to "hold down the fort" before Rosas' hiring/molding was complete makes him irrelevant IMO.
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Our cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:10 amRosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:02 am Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.
I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out
But this is Minnesota
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/
Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.
In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
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We have a lot of flexibility next year.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 amOur cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:10 amRosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:02 am Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.
I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out
But this is Minnesota
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/
Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.
In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
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Goal should be to find an expiring contract for Dieng (or Wiggins).Thrillkill wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:21 amWe have a lot of flexibility next year.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 amOur cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:10 am
Rosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/
Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.
In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
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Goal should be to see how good they can get under Ryan. 1st goal is can we flip Teague at the deadline for more than just space we get later. Everyone loves cap space but some space and assets is better than a lot of space and little assets.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 amGoal should be to find an expiring contract for Dieng (or Wiggins).Thrillkill wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:21 amWe have a lot of flexibility next year.flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 am
Our cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/
Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.
In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
This is a huge offseason even though we have no money. Do you spend the MLE and the other exceptions? Remove a lot of that flexibility next year? Or do you sign no one for big money? Those guys you sign could make us a lot better and they could be excellent trade bait. They also could handcuff us next offseason. It is a lot different from the years that we just needed to add as much talent as possible. We have some high end talent. We have some high end role players. We have limited holes in the roster. But we also have limited flexibility. Gonna be a tough call if that MLE guy isn't a legit starting PG.
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I haven’t seen this posted yet. Sachin Gupta, currently in Detroit and creator of ESPNs Trade Machine, may be joining the organization.
Doogie and CanisHoopus have been sharing.
Maybe our days of squandering assets are over!?
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Leads one to believe a moneyball style mindset exists. Analytics and player value per dollar mindset.
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Rosas has now brought in two dudes. Layden still with the GM title though?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 5:24 pmWhy would Layden get reassigned? Rosas is not taking the GM title too.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 9:48 amI'd be shocked if there is a search. I think Saunders remains in the position and Layden is reassigned to a scout.jimmyjamjammer wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 9:45 am
Curious why we haven't heard anything about a coaching search yet
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Ha Layden in his office with his feet up watching youtube. Keep cashing those checks.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:14 amRosas has now brought in two dudes. Layden still with the GM title though?Thrillkill wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 5:24 pmWhy would Layden get reassigned? Rosas is not taking the GM title too.
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Layden is such a lame duck I wonder what his actual job is now.
But this hire is very shockingly competent. What the hell is going on?
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I'm not sure we've ever had anybody in office that knew how to use the trade machine, let alone invent it.
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irishman89 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:33 pm I'm not sure we've ever had anybody in office that knew how to use the trade machine, let alone invent it.
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More like cause it's true.Style wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:37 pmirishman89 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 12:33 pm I'm not sure we've ever had anybody in office that knew how to use the trade machine, let alone invent it.
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Three new, competent individuals in the front office. Hard not to be optimistic about that part of the franchise right now.
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Every team chooses to structure their front office differently, but here's how the basketball side looks for a team like the Raptors:
Masai Ujiri: President
Wayne Embry: Senior Basketball Advisor
Bobby Webster: General Manager
Dan Tolzman: Assistant General Manager / Vice-President, Player Personnel
Teresa Resch: Vice-President, Basketball Operations & Player Development
Keith Boyarsky: Vice President, Basketball Strategy & Research
My guess is that this new front office structure for the Timberwolves will allow each post to specialize more effectively.
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What if we become a model franchise? Hurry up and lets start this damn season!
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100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
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"super computers"Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:25 pm 100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
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Exactly, these nerds do these things in their head. Computers are for pedestrians.Style wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:29 pm"super computers"Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:25 pm 100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
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I found some covert footage...Style wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:29 pm"super computers"Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 1:25 pm 100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.