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Rosas is new PBO...Country Club is DEAD!

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witljon wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:41 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 9:49 am
Thrillkill wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 5:24 pm
Why would Layden get reassigned? Rosas is not taking the GM title too.
Rosas would bring in his own guy to be #2. Wouldn't most do that?
But what if he doesn't have one?
:lol: Thoughts?
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HeHateMe wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:12 am
witljon wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:41 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 9:49 am

Rosas would bring in his own guy to be #2. Wouldn't most do that?
But what if he doesn't have one?
:lol: Thoughts?
Silly to think he wouldn't bring in people he's familiar with.

Curious on the title, though. Assistant GM? Does that mean Layden is still the Head GM? I'm assuming for the foreseeable future, but how long until the switch is made?
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I think Layden and Saunders are two important parts of their mediocre plan. Until rebuild 2021.
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Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.

I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out :cry:

But this is Minnesota :cry:
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flexbuffchest wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:02 am Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.

I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out :cry:

But this is Minnesota :cry:
Rosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?
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j2j wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:37 am
HeHateMe wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 9:12 am
witljon wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:41 pm

But what if he doesn't have one?
:lol: Thoughts?
Silly to think he wouldn't bring in people he's familiar with.

Curious on the title, though. Assistant GM? Does that mean Layden is still the Head GM? I'm assuming for the foreseeable future, but how long until the switch is made?
I'm assuming that Layden wont be with this organization past this upcoming year and the only reason he wasn't let go was to let Rosas have some time to evaluate him, evaluate this team and hire a coach before the draft came around.

Now that Saunders is our full time head coach having Layden to "hold down the fort" before Rosas' hiring/molding was complete makes him irrelevant IMO.
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HeHateMe wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:10 am
flexbuffchest wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:02 am Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.

I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out :cry:

But this is Minnesota :cry:
Rosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?
Our cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/

Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.

In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
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j2j wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 8:51 am

Rosas doing work.
Layden now looking for work after July 15.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 am
HeHateMe wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:10 am
flexbuffchest wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:02 am Whether true or not (almost certainly not) every report is saying that Rosas had full authority to pick his head coach. Right, right? I'm in the minority but I actually liked what Saunders did in his tenure here so far most notably his willingness to use the bench much more although that happened more as a consequence of a lot of injuries.

I just want to believe that Rosas was a homerun hire and it will work out :cry:

But this is Minnesota :cry:
Rosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?
Our cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/

Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.

In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
We have a lot of flexibility next year.
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Thrillkill wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:21 am
flexbuffchest wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 am
HeHateMe wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:10 am

Rosas was a good hire for sure, he looks like a homerun in comparison to who came before. McHale, Kahn, Saunders, Thibs…. that's what we've gotten so far. Three guys who are better off as coaches and the worst gm in NBA history. On Saunders, I think it comes down to the players. Most of the guys you had on your squad last year are back for this year and that's who they're comfortable with going forward. Our patience will be tested a bit with the lack of moves the front office can make with so much money tied up on Dieng, Towns, Wiggins, Teague and Roco. That accounts for what, 90-100 mil right there?
Our cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/

Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.

In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
We have a lot of flexibility next year.
Goal should be to find an expiring contract for Dieng (or Wiggins).
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HeHateMe wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am
Thrillkill wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:21 am
flexbuffchest wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 10:20 am

Our cap is pretty much screwed no matter what for a few years.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-t ... early/cap/

Right now we have ~110 million in 9 players which isn't including our draft picks.

In 20-21 we have ~92 million in 6 players but again that isn't including draft picks and assuming KAT doesn't make an all-nba team this year.
We have a lot of flexibility next year.
Goal should be to find an expiring contract for Dieng (or Wiggins).
Goal should be to see how good they can get under Ryan. 1st goal is can we flip Teague at the deadline for more than just space we get later. Everyone loves cap space but some space and assets is better than a lot of space and little assets.

This is a huge offseason even though we have no money. Do you spend the MLE and the other exceptions? Remove a lot of that flexibility next year? Or do you sign no one for big money? Those guys you sign could make us a lot better and they could be excellent trade bait. They also could handcuff us next offseason. It is a lot different from the years that we just needed to add as much talent as possible. We have some high end talent. We have some high end role players. We have limited holes in the roster. But we also have limited flexibility. Gonna be a tough call if that MLE guy isn't a legit starting PG.
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I haven’t seen this posted yet. Sachin Gupta, currently in Detroit and creator of ESPNs Trade Machine, may be joining the organization.

Doogie and CanisHoopus have been sharing.

Maybe our days of squandering assets are over!?
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Style wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 4:10 pm I haven’t seen this posted yet. Sachin Gupta, currently in Detroit and creator of ESPNs Trade Machine, may be joining the organization.

Doogie and CanisHoopus have been sharing.

Maybe our days of squandering assets are over!?
:naners:

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thinktank wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
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Thrillkill wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 5:24 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 9:48 am
jimmyjamjammer wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 9:45 am

Curious why we haven't heard anything about a coaching search yet
I'd be shocked if there is a search. I think Saunders remains in the position and Layden is reassigned to a scout.
Why would Layden get reassigned? Rosas is not taking the GM title too.
Rosas has now brought in two dudes. Layden still with the GM title though? :beer: :lol:
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 10:14 am
Thrillkill wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 5:24 pm
HeHateMe wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 9:48 am

I'd be shocked if there is a search. I think Saunders remains in the position and Layden is reassigned to a scout.
Why would Layden get reassigned? Rosas is not taking the GM title too.
Rosas has now brought in two dudes. Layden still with the GM title though? :beer: :lol:
Ha Layden in his office with his feet up watching youtube. Keep cashing those checks.
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memyworld wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 10:36 am
HeHateMe wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 10:13 am
Layden is such a lame duck :lol: I wonder what his actual job is now.


But this hire is very shockingly competent. What the hell is going on?
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I'm not sure we've ever had anybody in office that knew how to use the trade machine, let alone invent it.
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irishman89 wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:33 pm I'm not sure we've ever had anybody in office that knew how to use the trade machine, let alone invent it.
:lol:
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Style wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:37 pm
irishman89 wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:33 pm I'm not sure we've ever had anybody in office that knew how to use the trade machine, let alone invent it.
:lol:
More like :( cause it's true.
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Three new, competent individuals in the front office. Hard not to be optimistic about that part of the franchise right now.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:30 pm
memyworld wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 10:36 am
HeHateMe wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 10:13 am
Layden is such a lame duck :lol: I wonder what his actual job is now.


But this hire is very shockingly competent. What the hell is going on?
Every team chooses to structure their front office differently, but here's how the basketball side looks for a team like the Raptors:

Masai Ujiri: President
Wayne Embry: Senior Basketball Advisor
Bobby Webster: General Manager
Dan Tolzman: Assistant General Manager / Vice-President, Player Personnel
Teresa Resch: Vice-President, Basketball Operations & Player Development
Keith Boyarsky: Vice President, Basketball Strategy & Research

My guess is that this new front office structure for the Timberwolves will allow each post to specialize more effectively.
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What if we become a model franchise? Hurry up and lets start this damn season!
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100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
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Moses Scurry wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:25 pm 100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
:lol: "super computers"
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Style wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:29 pm
Moses Scurry wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:25 pm 100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
:lol: "super computers"
:lol: Exactly, these nerds do these things in their head. Computers are for pedestrians.
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Style wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:29 pm
Moses Scurry wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:25 pm 100% all these smart guys are firing up their super computers trying to devise a way to dump Sleepy.
:lol: "super computers"
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