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When Jeff Teague goes haywire
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When Jeff Teague goes haywire
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2626 ... rd-scoring
I'm not sure what happened to Teague in Minnesota, but something in his point guard circuitry went haywire. Maybe he just got a little older. Maybe coaching and roster chaos -- plus a plodding offense that lacked the flowing beauty of his prime Atlanta years -- sapped his rhythm and confidence.
There are long stretches when he barely looks at the rim:
Passing up opens 3s isn't a crime; Teague is an average 3-point shooter. It is often smart to turn down open 3s, call for a second screen, and slither through the crevices that open. It is not smart when you do this:
Teague declines a 3, ignores a wide-open Dario Saric -- shooting 39 percent from deep in Minnesota even though he hasn't quite clicked all the way yet -- and flings up whatever the hell this is.
Teague is on pace for his best assist season. But he's also posting his worst shooting numbers since his rookie year, and there are an astonishing number of games where you barely notice him beyond a few head-scratching decisions.
Saric and Towns make for a snug fit, and every team needs someone like Covington. Jones is a nice backup, though his status as an analytics darling has inflated his reputation. Josh Okogie and Keita Bates-Diop have the vague outlines of solid role players.
But Teague has outlived his usefulness to the franchise, and Andrew Wiggins somehow gets a little worse every season.
For all the losing and angst, how much of long-term import does Minnesota have beyond Towns?
I'm not sure what happened to Teague in Minnesota, but something in his point guard circuitry went haywire. Maybe he just got a little older. Maybe coaching and roster chaos -- plus a plodding offense that lacked the flowing beauty of his prime Atlanta years -- sapped his rhythm and confidence.
There are long stretches when he barely looks at the rim:
Passing up opens 3s isn't a crime; Teague is an average 3-point shooter. It is often smart to turn down open 3s, call for a second screen, and slither through the crevices that open. It is not smart when you do this:
Teague declines a 3, ignores a wide-open Dario Saric -- shooting 39 percent from deep in Minnesota even though he hasn't quite clicked all the way yet -- and flings up whatever the hell this is.
Teague is on pace for his best assist season. But he's also posting his worst shooting numbers since his rookie year, and there are an astonishing number of games where you barely notice him beyond a few head-scratching decisions.
Saric and Towns make for a snug fit, and every team needs someone like Covington. Jones is a nice backup, though his status as an analytics darling has inflated his reputation. Josh Okogie and Keita Bates-Diop have the vague outlines of solid role players.
But Teague has outlived his usefulness to the franchise, and Andrew Wiggins somehow gets a little worse every season.
For all the losing and angst, how much of long-term import does Minnesota have beyond Towns?
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Yes and people here promised he was the answer over Rubio.
The Rubio or Teague debate is completely and utterly over.
Rubio was the better PG for this team.
Thanks Thibbs for locking in and overpaying Teague.
Hate Kahn all you want (he earned it), but Thibbs has surpassed him as the worst person with organizational influence ever for the MN Timberwolves.
The Rubio or Teague debate is completely and utterly over.
Rubio was the better PG for this team.
Thanks Thibbs for locking in and overpaying Teague.
Hate Kahn all you want (he earned it), but Thibbs has surpassed him as the worst person with organizational influence ever for the MN Timberwolves.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
RT @Tashville401: Worst possession of basketball I've seen all night would be this Jeff Teague masterpiece
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Playing for the Timberwolves seems to bring the worst out in guy's.Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 pm http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2626 ... rd-scoring
I'm not sure what happened to Teague in Minnesota, but something in his point guard circuitry went haywire. Maybe he just got a little older. Maybe coaching and roster chaos -- plus a plodding offense that lacked the flowing beauty of his prime Atlanta years -- sapped his rhythm and confidence.
There are long stretches when he barely looks at the rim:
Passing up opens 3s isn't a crime; Teague is an average 3-point shooter. It is often smart to turn down open 3s, call for a second screen, and slither through the crevices that open. It is not smart when you do this:
Teague declines a 3, ignores a wide-open Dario Saric -- shooting 39 percent from deep in Minnesota even though he hasn't quite clicked all the way yet -- and flings up whatever the hell this is.
Teague is on pace for his best assist season. But he's also posting his worst shooting numbers since his rookie year, and there are an astonishing number of games where you barely notice him beyond a few head-scratching decisions.
Saric and Towns make for a snug fit, and every team needs someone like Covington. Jones is a nice backup, though his status as an analytics darling has inflated his reputation. Josh Okogie and Keita Bates-Diop have the vague outlines of solid role players.
But Teague has outlived his usefulness to the franchise, and Andrew Wiggins somehow gets a little worse every season.
For all the losing and angst, how much of long-term import does Minnesota have beyond Towns?
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Jesus. Who the FUCK cares?!? Rubio doesn't move the needle at all for this team.jodaman01 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:19 am Yes and people here promised he was the answer over Rubio.
The Rubio or Teague debate is completely and utterly over.
Rubio was the better PG for this team.
Thanks Thibbs for locking in and overpaying Teague.
Hate Kahn all you want (he earned it), but Thibbs has surpassed him as the worst person with organizational influence ever for the MN Timberwolves.
They are still utter garbage if you swapped Rubio with Teague. Who would make them less garbage? Now that's debatable.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
It is true that most here were happy with the Teague pickup!
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
No. it was about a 50/50 split. Many would rather have kept Rubio. Tube is right in his assessment though, that neither really do/would do much for this team.
My preference would be Ricky, just because of the defense, tenacity and heart. Teagues got none of that.
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I'm not going to go back and look, but I'd say at least 75 percent were in favor of it. I don't know enuf about hoops to have made an opinion at the time, but it appeared that Ricky just wasn't getting any better and having a faster paced PG who could score made sense to me. I guess the answer is that neither PG was the answer....and certainly Tyus isn't either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:30 pmNo. it was about a 50/50 split. Many would rather have kept Rubio. Tube is right in his assessment though, that neither really do/would do much for this team.
My preference would be Ricky, just because of the defense, tenacity and heart. Teagues got none of that.
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It may have seemed that way, because when your favorite team makes a move, the majority of fans will try to take a positive angle.Hornets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:36 pmI'm not going to go back and look, but I'd say at least 75 percent were in favor of it. I don't know enuf about hoops to have made an opinion at the time, but it appeared that Ricky just wasn't getting any better and having a faster paced PG who could score made sense to me. I guess the answer is that neither PG was the answer....and certainly Tyus isn't either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:30 pmNo. it was about a 50/50 split. Many would rather have kept Rubio. Tube is right in his assessment though, that neither really do/would do much for this team.
My preference would be Ricky, just because of the defense, tenacity and heart. Teagues got none of that.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Wiggins is a far bigger problem.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Clearly a fan that has absolutely no clue of the importance of the PG position. Sad.
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LOL Most people were pretty indifferent to Teague but leave it to Jodaman to create a narrative out of thin air.
You understand that most good wings share point guard duties these days, right? I mean, Wiggins doesn't because he sucks but there we have it.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Indifferent my ass....nice try.zeitgeist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:18 pm LOL Most people were pretty indifferent to Teague but leave it to Jodaman to create a narrative out of thin air.
You understand that most good wings share point guard duties these days, right? I mean, Wiggins doesn't because he sucks but there we have it.
I will take this as your defense of Teague for what was likely your dumb support of him..
Good Job!
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Did I support Teague OVER Rubio, yes. Was I largely indifferent to him as a player? Yes. There were several other point guards that we could have potentially had that would have been better but they cost a lot more money. Plenty of Jazz fans are wavering in their support of Rubio now too because as knowledgeable Wolves fans know, it is very difficult to build a good team around a point guard that is so awful off the ball. This actually plays right into what I was just talking about with wings sharing point guard duties.jodaman01 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:20 amIndifferent my ass....nice try.
I will take this as your defense of Teague for what was likely your dumb support of him..
Good Job!
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
Rubio with a 2-13 shooting game last night. Seriously people, set the bar higher that Rubio or Teague.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
The bar was set higher prior to pissing away money and locking in Jeff fucking Teague.
The Wolves knew what they needed, the fans knew what they needed, Thibbs knew what they needed to replace Rubio, he had a full season to figure it out.
He/we got Jeff Teague, and so many cheered and explained why it was the best move possible and ate and spewed that shit like manna from heaven.
Minimize it all you want and equate the two, even though clearly Rubio was the better option for this Team. This is what was/has been a long running serious debate here being a lopsided win looks like.
SMH
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
I believe the thinking was we were getting an all-star level Teague and Butler to pair with potential stars Towns and Wiggins. But now it looks like we went 1 for 4.
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I believe the thinking was we were getting an all-star level Teague and Butler to pair with potential stars Towns and Wiggins. But now it looks like we went 1 for 4.
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
I was wrong thinking Teague would be a better player for the Wolves than Rubio was. I'm happy we have Obi Wan though!!!!
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Re: When Jeff Teague goes haywire
If a guy opts in, I wonder how quickly you can trade him or if there is any restriction. Nice expiring contract if he opts in.