Should Wolves do anything with expiring contracts?

[HeHateMe]

Gibson $14,000,000
Bayless $8,575,916
Tolliver $5,750,000
Jones $2,444,053
Rose $2,393,887
Deng $2,393,887


I wish Teague was expiring. Wondering if there are trades out there where the Wolves can find a team has a couple of guys signed through 19-20 (same as Teague) and they can try to send Gorgui along with an expiring to take back two contracts.

Portland comes to mind. Example, Blazers trade Leonard + Turner for Gorgui + Bayless + Deng. (Deng can get traded in December, Bayless cannot be combined in a deal for 60 days of course). After this, you'd have Teague/Leonard/Turner all coming off the books then summer 2020.

Do people want the Wolves to utilize expiring contracts?

[YBBR]

Gibson $14,000,000
Bayless $8,575,916
Tolliver $5,750,000
Jones $2,444,053
Rose $2,393,887
Deng $2,393,887


I wish Teague was expiring. Wondering if there are trades out there where the Wolves can find a team has a couple of guys signed through 19-20 (same as Teague) and they can try to send Gorgui along with an expiring to take back two contracts.

Portland comes to mind. Example, Blazers trade Leonard + Turner for Gorgui + Bayless + Deng. (Deng can get traded in December, Bayless cannot be combined in a deal for 60 days of course). After this, you'd have Teague/Leonard/Turner all coming off the books then summer 2020.

Do people want the Wolves to utilize expiring contracts?

I would. Just Gibson and Bayless for now. Taj can get you something pretty decent as a 14 million expiring who can fit right into a team and give you good minutes.

They signed him to a good deal. It would be nice to reap some rewards from that instead of just cash coming off the books.

[Thrillkill]

Gibson $14,000,000
Bayless $8,575,916
Tolliver $5,750,000
Jones $2,444,053
Rose $2,393,887
Deng $2,393,887


I wish Teague was expiring. Wondering if there are trades out there where the Wolves can find a team has a couple of guys signed through 19-20 (same as Teague) and they can try to send Gorgui along with an expiring to take back two contracts.

Portland comes to mind. Example, Blazers trade Leonard + Turner for Gorgui + Bayless + Deng. (Deng can get traded in December, Bayless cannot be combined in a deal for 60 days of course). After this, you'd have Teague/Leonard/Turner all coming off the books then summer 2020.

Do people want the Wolves to utilize expiring contracts?

I'll refer you 15 years of never doing it ever. But of course they should. They just turned Butler's underpaid deal in to 2 rotation players and an extra what like 8 mil? But no way that fuck Taylor ever does it. I mean are you kidding me? This was his dream deal. You think Thibs makes this deal? It got made because it saves Taylor that money starting next year.

[j2j]

How about Tristan Thompson? Solid big option that let's KAT play more 4. But we'd have to clear out some of our bigs to do it. Cleveland has a few 2 year deals like you're referring to. Gorgui, Taj, and Bayless for Thompson, Korver, and JR Smith? Then cut JR immediately.

Any buyers remorse for Washington with Otto Porter? Would they trade him for a bunch of expirings?

[Moses Scurry]

Wiggins for Porter!

[Hokkaido]

If someone was willing to take on Dieng with Rose attached for an expiring + small asset, would you pull the trigger or just eat the Dieng contract and hope to re-sign Rose for to be our starting PG once Teague is gone?

Now would be the time to sell high on Rose if you believe he won’t keep up this production or stay healthy. Buy or sell?

[Thrillkill]

If someone was willing to take on Dieng with Rose attached for an expiring + small asset, would you pull the trigger or just eat the Dieng contract and hope to re-sign Rose for to be our starting PG once Teague is gone?

Now would be the time to sell high on Rose if you believe he won’t keep up this production or stay healthy. Buy or sell?

GLEN
TAYLOR
DOES
NOT
SPEND
MONEY

Jesus tap dancing Christ when will you all get it. This is the deal because it gets the piece of crap millions of extra dollars next year. And you fucking rubes want to trade more players for more money he won't spend. You are a miser's dream.

They shouold obviously be TAKING on money for assets. Mybe we will when the piece of shit dies. If you are a Wolves fan start hoping it's today.

[Hokkaido]

Holy shit dude take it easy...

Yeah Taylor is a cheap ass but he’s also not afraid to overpay players. I could see him paying Rose, especially if he keeps up this level of play.

[YBBR]

Holy shit dude take it easy...

Yeah Taylor is a cheap ass but he’s also not afraid to overpay players. I could see him paying Rose, especially if he keeps up this level of play.

Thrill is just a touch...unhinged shall we say.

[LordNu]

Holy shit dude take it easy...

Yeah Taylor is a cheap ass but he’s also not afraid to overpay players. I could see him paying Rose, especially if he keeps up this level of play.

Thrill is just a touch...unhinged shall we say.

He's certainly a buzzkill if anything.

[LordNu]

Gibson $14,000,000
Bayless $8,575,916
Tolliver $5,750,000
Jones $2,444,053
Rose $2,393,887
Deng $2,393,887


I wish Teague was expiring. Wondering if there are trades out there where the Wolves can find a team has a couple of guys signed through 19-20 (same as Teague) and they can try to send Gorgui along with an expiring to take back two contracts.

Portland comes to mind. Example, Blazers trade Leonard + Turner for Gorgui + Bayless + Deng. (Deng can get traded in December, Bayless cannot be combined in a deal for 60 days of course). After this, you'd have Teague/Leonard/Turner all coming off the books then summer 2020.

Do people want the Wolves to utilize expiring contracts?

Definitely use them.

We are in mini-rebuild now, and unless KAT and Wiggins shine, we aren't going to get to the palyoffs this season.

I am also wondering what we are going to do about getting a future PG for this team.

Teague is not the future, DRose is a great 6th man but no starter (can't trust his health), Jones isn't what we need.

[Hornets]

Do WHATEVER can be done to get rid of Wiggins.....do that and I will be a Timberpup fan for life!

[Hornets]

Do WHATEVER can be done to get rid of Wiggins.....do that and I will be a Timberpup fan for life!

[Clubhouseleader]

Do WHATEVER can be done to get rid of Wiggins.....do that and I will be a Timberpup fan for life!

He might be the most untradeable guy in the league. There is likely not one gm in the league that would want him and his contract.

[bri]

Could try Taj + Dieng for Bismack and Marvin Williams. Charlotte might do it for short term savings and a short term upgrade.

[Thrillkill]

This thread is a joke. 1 million ways to shed more salary that will go directly into Taylor's grave.

Someone once said you play to win the game. Ir wasn't a rube obviously.

[HeHateMe]

This thread is a joke. 1 million ways to shed more salary that will go directly into Taylor's grave.

Someone once said you play to win the game. Ir wasn't a rube obviously.

This thread isn’t meant to be a joke. It’s a discussion, bud.

[UnFadeable21]

This thread is a joke. 1 million ways to shed more salary that will go directly into Taylor's grave.

Someone once said you play to win the game. Ir wasn't a rube obviously.

This thread isn’t meant to be a joke. It’s a discussion, bud.

Joda and Thrill make me laugh the most on here lol

[UnFadeable21]

I say keep them all and let them expire. We will have some money to play with after this season seeing what hole needs to be filled and where.

Agreed, I wish Teague’s deal was an expiring. Thibs should of made the 3rd year a team option since he was giving him 19 million a season.

Another fail of the Thibs regime.

[beetlebum71]

The most likely move is buying out Bayless. I can't see a role for him on this team even if they move Teague at some point. Might as well let him go play somewhere that needs him.

[Style]

I’d let Taj expire, unless there’s another $14M expiring out there that can be attached with an asset. Randolph in Sacramento? Even if that asset is a 2nd round pick. Do it. Do not take on additional years for Taj’s contract though.

I think there could be a market for Rose. Vet minimum deal and he’s showing scoring punch off the bench. There’ll likely be a contender that wants him. Dare to dream of a 1st?

Phoenix has shown interest in Tyus. If there’s a decent return (heavily protected 1st), I’d do it. Anything less I hang onto him and let him test the market as a RFA. Bring him back if it’s a reasonable deal.

Tolliver is tough. I loooove the guy. He’s perfect for our team, and really any team using a modern NBA system. I could see Houston having interest in him. He seems to be part of what’s missing out there. Again, dare to dream of a 1st?

Deng and Bayless are valuable in the sense they can be added to the guys listed above in trades to help match salaries. If there’s a $10M expiring out there, for example, attach Bayless to Tyus to collect an asset. Otherwise just let them walk. I absolutely 100% would not buy out Bayless because his expiring gives us trade flexibility. Taylor writes the checks and will likely think very different than me in this situation, unfortunately.

[LordNu]

I think there could be a market for Rose. Vet minimum deal and he’s showing scoring punch off the bench. There’ll likely be a contender that wants him. Dare to dream of a 1st?

I'd really like to re-sign him if possible.

[Style]

I think there could be a market for Rose. Vet minimum deal and he’s showing scoring punch off the bench. There’ll likely be a contender that wants him. Dare to dream of a 1st?

I'd really like to re-sign him if possible.

He just doesn’t fit the age timeline or style of play out of the PG position that would make me want to pass up an asset while extending him and his risky health.

[Thrillkill]

This thread is a joke. 1 million ways to shed more salary that will go directly into Taylor's grave.

Someone once said you play to win the game. Ir wasn't a rube obviously.

This thread isn’t meant to be a joke. It’s a discussion, bud.

The joke is not the thread. It's that over and over, year after year, rubes try to think of ways to create more space that won't be spent. Acting like it's some crazy mistake and coincidence that we didn't take Butler Jr from Mia and did take a deal that saves a ton of cash? Just like when everyone blamed Kahn for the trade down draft.No way! What a totally unrelated coincidence to the 50 previous trades under Taylor. It's fucking mind blowing to me.

You know what teams in our situation do that are interested in building NBA basketball teams? They use their expirings on ASSETS. You know who did that? The team that just robbed Glen Taylor of an allstar for a couple 10 point scorers. and a 2nd in 4 years.

Oh, my bad, I forgot cash money for someone's grave.

[Billy Ray]

I agree to an extent.....If Butler was truly upset that he wasn't going to get the $190 million, and thats why he wanted out. Then yes, Taylor is a cheapskate. You make the Butler traded with the FULL UNDERSTANDING you are paying the full Bird Rights Super Max. Otherwise, you dont make the trade.

Miami trade is another story. Waiters is a bad contract. A negative asset. The Wolves already have 2 big negative assets in Wiggins and Dieng. Now you want to add another in Waiters? No thanks. Your roster should be net zero or positive assets, no negative assets. You always need cap flexibility in case something comes up.......you never know.

[HeHateMe]

I’d let Taj expire, unless there’s another $14M expiring out there that can be attached with an asset. Randolph in Sacramento? Even if that asset is a 2nd round pick. Do it. Do not take on additional years for Taj’s contract though.

I think there could be a market for Rose. Vet minimum deal and he’s showing scoring punch off the bench. There’ll likely be a contender that wants him. Dare to dream of a 1st?

Phoenix has shown interest in Tyus. If there’s a decent return (heavily protected 1st), I’d do it. Anything less I hang onto him and let him test the market as a RFA. Bring him back if it’s a reasonable deal.

Would you trade Gorgui/Tyus for Anderson/protected first?

[Billy Ray]

I’d let Taj expire, unless there’s another $14M expiring out there that can be attached with an asset. Randolph in Sacramento? Even if that asset is a 2nd round pick. Do it. Do not take on additional years for Taj’s contract though.

I think there could be a market for Rose. Vet minimum deal and he’s showing scoring punch off the bench. There’ll likely be a contender that wants him. Dare to dream of a 1st?

Phoenix has shown interest in Tyus. If there’s a decent return (heavily protected 1st), I’d do it. Anything less I hang onto him and let him test the market as a RFA. Bring him back if it’s a reasonable deal.

Would you trade Gorgui/Tyus for Anderson/protected first?

In a heartbeat.

Takes a year off the books of a massive overpaid contract......and Tyus has proven to be a dime a dozen point guard. Youre not going to pay him anything substantial anyways. Then you get a protected pick, which you probably wont get for 3-5 years, but thats okay, your biggest win is decreasing the duration of the bad contract

[Style]

I’d let Taj expire, unless there’s another $14M expiring out there that can be attached with an asset. Randolph in Sacramento? Even if that asset is a 2nd round pick. Do it. Do not take on additional years for Taj’s contract though.

I think there could be a market for Rose. Vet minimum deal and he’s showing scoring punch off the bench. There’ll likely be a contender that wants him. Dare to dream of a 1st?

Phoenix has shown interest in Tyus. If there’s a decent return (heavily protected 1st), I’d do it. Anything less I hang onto him and let him test the market as a RFA. Bring him back if it’s a reasonable deal.

Would you trade Gorgui/Tyus for Anderson/protected first?

In a heartbeat.

Takes a year off the books of a massive overpaid contract......and Tyus has proven to be a dime a dozen point guard. Youre not going to pay him anything substantial anyways. Then you get a protected pick, which you probably wont get for 3-5 years, but thats okay, your biggest win is decreasing the duration of the bad contract

Yeah, I agree with this take. I like Tyus as a player, but this deal would be too good to pass up.

[Billy Ray]

Would you trade Gorgui/Tyus for Anderson/protected first?

In a heartbeat.

Takes a year off the books of a massive overpaid contract......and Tyus has proven to be a dime a dozen point guard. Youre not going to pay him anything substantial anyways. Then you get a protected pick, which you probably wont get for 3-5 years, but thats okay, your biggest win is decreasing the duration of the bad contract

Yeah, I agree with this take. I like Tyus as a player, but this deal would be too good to pass up.

So good that I don't think the Suns do it. They may do it the trade without the FRP. If Tyus contract was longer, they might do it. But he's RFA

[HeHateMe]

How about Tristan Thompson? Solid big option that let's KAT play more 4. But we'd have to clear out some of our bigs to do it. Cleveland has a few 2 year deals like you're referring to. Gorgui, Taj, and Bayless for Thompson, Korver, and JR Smith? Then cut JR immediately.

Any buyers remorse for Washington with Otto Porter? Would they trade him for a bunch of expirings?

Oooh.

Bayless + future 2nd for Korver. Separate deal to execute now.
Gorgui+Taj+Tyus for Thompson + Smith. Smith waived immediately.
Sign Noah.

Thompson/Noah
Towns/Saric/Tolliver
Covington/Korver/KBD
Wiggins/Okogie/Nunnally
Teague/Rose

Teague/Thompson clears about 40 mil after 2020.