*** Official 2018-19 Draft Thread ***

[j2j]

Would Okogie and the #11 be enough to move up in this Draft to get one of the PGs.

I like Okogie, but long term this team needs a PG.

I agree with the need for a PG, but which of the 2 available do you think is realistically a great long term option? So much that you'd dump Okogie to go get him?

I’m not good at picking out the best talent in the drafts, I don’t watch college hoops with the exception of the tournament.

Is there one you and the other draft wizards here think would be a great fit, and how high would the Wolves have to go to get him? Could using Okogie and #11 get the Wolves in position to get that player??

I like both White and Garland, but neither enough that I would trade up to get him.

[somuchyummy]

if you are referring to some other trade up that hasn't yet been mentioned, then i don't know. you mean, like if the grizzlies would consider the #11 and okogie for the #2 (morant)? sure, we haven't discussed that impossibility yet - so go for it.

[Thrillkill]

if you are referring to some other trade up that hasn't yet been mentioned, then i don't know. you mean, like if the grizzlies would consider the #11 and okogie for the #2 (morant)? sure, we haven't discussed that impossibility yet - so go for it.

Dude Okogie couldn't get you to Chi let alone Mem. Fact is when you look at it the only teams you could get up to either don't need Okogie ( Chi, Wash, Pho) or desperately want PG. (same 3 teams) There is no deal to be had.

[jodaman01]

if you are referring to some other trade up that hasn't yet been mentioned, then i don't know. you mean, like if the grizzlies would consider the #11 and okogie for the #2 (morant)? sure, we haven't discussed that impossibility yet - so go for it.

Dude Okogie couldn't get you to Chi let alone Mem. Fact is when you look at it the only teams you could get up to either don't need Okogie ( Chi, Wash, Pho) or desperately want PG. (same 3 teams) There is no deal to be had.

Well that just shoots that idea right to hell.

[somuchyummy]

if you are referring to some other trade up that hasn't yet been mentioned, then i don't know. you mean, like if the grizzlies would consider the #11 and okogie for the #2 (morant)? sure, we haven't discussed that impossibility yet - so go for it.

Dude Okogie couldn't get you to Chi let alone Mem. Fact is when you look at it the only teams you could get up to either don't need Okogie ( Chi, Wash, Pho) or desperately want PG. (same 3 teams) There is no deal to be had.

you did catch my "impossibility" verbiage, right?

[thinktank]

We do not need wings. So all the wings in the area from 11 into the 20's are not as valuable to us as the bigs are.

We have Covington and Wiggins.

We shouldn't be passing on a wing if he's the best player on the board.

What about that guy who......................couldn't shoot in college? And KBD? And Cam?

Unless they are trading Wigs for Ibaka they are not and should not take a wing.

That’s nuts.

If a wing is the best player on the board you take him.

[witljon]

All first round picks have decent potential, but how many will actually reach it?
Okogie is a 20 year old who can guard elite SGs. How many of these draft picks will be able to do that?
I know potential has a lot of value, but how many will be better than Okogie and how many will be busts?

[witljon]

Lakers fans will say their garbage in exchange for New Orleans #1 and Davis.

Ingram is up and coming! Ball is only a year in! Kuzma is practically an all star!

New York fans are the most insufferable

[Thrillkill]

We have Covington and Wiggins.

We shouldn't be passing on a wing if he's the best player on the board.

What about that guy who......................couldn't shoot in college? And KBD? And Cam?

Unless they are trading Wigs for Ibaka they are not and should not take a wing.

That’s nuts.

If a wing is the best player on the board you take him.

Just like you said about the caged lion.

[Thrillkill]

Lakers fans will say their garbage in exchange for New Orleans #1 and Davis.

Ingram is up and coming! Ball is only a year in! Kuzma is practically an all star!

New York fans are the most insufferable

You gotta love them all bitching like they got screwed with a 14% chance. Hell, they had a better chance of picking 5th than top 4. They get top 4 in a 4 player top tier and bitch.

Live our life once.

[thinktank]

What about that guy who......................couldn't shoot in college? And KBD? And Cam?

Unless they are trading Wigs for Ibaka they are not and should not take a wing.

That’s nuts.

If a wing is the best player on the board you take him.

Just like you said about the caged lion.

Huh?

[SO_MONEY]

I don't see much difference in picks 6 through 12.

I like more than 5 players, but 11 to say 20 or even into the 20's is pretty balanced. Like I said you you might put Sekou, Little and a guy or two in a mini tier because of upside, but there is a cut off and it happens before the wolves pick.

I'd say balanced as to player values but not as to individual players. We do not need wings. So all the wings in the area from 11 into the 20's are not as valuable to us as the bigs are.

11 is going to be a very interesting spot. Don't we always sit at the end of a "tier"? A move or 2 above us that surprise could change our thinking a ton. If Hachimura impresses in a workout could very well see him going before us. Could see a team below us making a move up for the last wing in Reddish. Hell, a PG desperate team might talk themselves into NAW being one (better not be us) That could leave us with Doumboya. Could leave us as the team trading back with that team hunting wings. Could leave us sitting there and having to take the best big left as they are going quick. However it works out before us we can not take the chance on losing out on a legit big.

I actually think need wings just as much as we need bigs, therefore I see it as balenced.

[SO_MONEY]

One of em I'm starting to like a little more is Darius Garland. And its nothing he is doing, its just what I've read or heard that helps influence my opinion. I still think Jeff Teague when I think of Garland, but hopefully its the good Jeff Teague. And Im starting to like SG Kevin Porter Jr. USC a littler more for where the Wolves are sitting.

Porter Jr. is a BIG NO for me. He is on my do not draft list. Garland will not make it to us with both CHI and PHX slipping in draft position. The draft lottery didn't do the Wolves any favors.

What is it you don't like about him at 11? He's a shooter, and we could use shooters.

He is not a shooter, he can't even make FTs.

[Thrillkill]

I like more than 5 players, but 11 to say 20 or even into the 20's is pretty balanced. Like I said you you might put Sekou, Little and a guy or two in a mini tier because of upside, but there is a cut off and it happens before the wolves pick.

I'd say balanced as to player values but not as to individual players. We do not need wings. So all the wings in the area from 11 into the 20's are not as valuable to us as the bigs are.

11 is going to be a very interesting spot. Don't we always sit at the end of a "tier"? A move or 2 above us that surprise could change our thinking a ton. If Hachimura impresses in a workout could very well see him going before us. Could see a team below us making a move up for the last wing in Reddish. Hell, a PG desperate team might talk themselves into NAW being one (better not be us) That could leave us with Doumboya. Could leave us as the team trading back with that team hunting wings. Could leave us sitting there and having to take the best big left as they are going quick. However it works out before us we can not take the chance on losing out on a legit big.

I actually think need wings just as much as we need bigs, therefore I see it as balenced.

How do you figure? You plan on playing 4 wings at a time?

[Hoop Dreams]

Porter Jr. is a BIG NO for me. He is on my do not draft list. Garland will not make it to us with both CHI and PHX slipping in draft position. The draft lottery didn't do the Wolves any favors.

What is it you don't like about him at 11? He's a shooter, and we could use shooters.

He is not a shooter, he can't even make FTs.

He shot 41% from three. He has a nice shooting stroke, but yeah, his free throw shooting is atrocious.

[SO_MONEY]

I'd say balanced as to player values but not as to individual players. We do not need wings. So all the wings in the area from 11 into the 20's are not as valuable to us as the bigs are.

11 is going to be a very interesting spot. Don't we always sit at the end of a "tier"? A move or 2 above us that surprise could change our thinking a ton. If Hachimura impresses in a workout could very well see him going before us. Could see a team below us making a move up for the last wing in Reddish. Hell, a PG desperate team might talk themselves into NAW being one (better not be us) That could leave us with Doumboya. Could leave us as the team trading back with that team hunting wings. Could leave us sitting there and having to take the best big left as they are going quick. However it works out before us we can not take the chance on losing out on a legit big.

I actually think need wings just as much as we need bigs, therefore I see it as balenced.

How do you figure? You plan on playing 4 wings at a time?

Meh. I could say the same to you about bigs. Towns, Saric, Gourgi, KBD vs. Wiggins, Covington, Okogie, Reynolds.

Each will likely get FA. We are sitting about the same with bigs and wings.

[SO_MONEY]

What is it you don't like about him at 11? He's a shooter, and we could use shooters.

He is not a shooter, he can't even make FTs.

He shot 41% from three. He has a nice shooting stroke, but yeah, his free throw shooting is atrocious.

The thing is he doesn't have a nice shooting stroke and the fact he can't hit FTs pretty much says you can discount the 41% as fluke, if history matters.

[KATMANDUDE]

Sekou had, by far, his best game as a pro earlier today: http://www.scoresway.com/?sport=basketb ... &id=297657

34 pts 9 reb 8/11 from 2, 5/7 from 3

[j2j]

Sekou had, by far, his best game as a pro earlier today: http://www.scoresway.com/?sport=basketb ... &id=297657

34 pts 9 reb 8/11 from 2, 5/7 from 3

#BetterThanZion

[thinktank]

He is not a shooter, he can't even make FTs.

He shot 41% from three. He has a nice shooting stroke, but yeah, his free throw shooting is atrocious.

The thing is he doesn't have a nice shooting stroke and the fact he can't hit FTs pretty much says you can discount the 41% as fluke, if history matters.

Maybe. Maybe not.

He shot 2 FTs a game.

Yeah, he shot 51%, but getting to the line once a game is a pretty small sample size when viewed in context.

And maybe he doesn’t get to the FT line, which would also suck.

He’s kind of like how LaVine was before the draft.

[thinktank]

Sekou had, by far, his best game as a pro earlier today: http://www.scoresway.com/?sport=basketb ... &id=297657

34 pts 9 reb 8/11 from 2, 5/7 from 3

Sekou stock rising.

[witljon]

He is not a shooter, he can't even make FTs.

He shot 41% from three. He has a nice shooting stroke, but yeah, his free throw shooting is atrocious.

The thing is he doesn't have a nice shooting stroke and the fact he can't hit FTs pretty much says you can discount the 41% as fluke, if history matters.

Well, Ricky Rubio has a nice free throw stroke, but struggles shooting 3s.

[SO_MONEY]

He shot 41% from three. He has a nice shooting stroke, but yeah, his free throw shooting is atrocious.

The thing is he doesn't have a nice shooting stroke and the fact he can't hit FTs pretty much says you can discount the 41% as fluke, if history matters.

Well, Ricky Rubio has a nice free throw stroke, but struggles shooting 3s.

Rubio never really struggled shooting 3s. He was on the low side of average, but he was not bad.

[KevinBaconIsNotMyHero]

32% career from 3 is bad. It's 3 points below the league average.

[Thrillkill]

He shot 41% from three. He has a nice shooting stroke, but yeah, his free throw shooting is atrocious.

The thing is he doesn't have a nice shooting stroke and the fact he can't hit FTs pretty much says you can discount the 41% as fluke, if history matters.

Maybe. Maybe not.

He shot 2 FTs a game.

Yeah, he shot 51%, but getting to the line once a game is a pretty small sample size when viewed in context.

And maybe he doesn’t get to the FT line, which would also suck.

He’s kind of like how LaVine was before the draft.

Been a lot of young guys who's FT numbers looked like they sucked because they shot 2 a game. Hard to get a rhythm on 2 shots. He's a scorer/gunner who has a wicked Ricky Davis step back that he uses too much and that's why he rarely gets fouled.

[SO_MONEY]

The thing is he doesn't have a nice shooting stroke and the fact he can't hit FTs pretty much says you can discount the 41% as fluke, if history matters.

Maybe. Maybe not.

He shot 2 FTs a game.

Yeah, he shot 51%, but getting to the line once a game is a pretty small sample size when viewed in context.

And maybe he doesn’t get to the FT line, which would also suck.

He’s kind of like how LaVine was before the draft.

Been a lot of young guys who's FT numbers looked like they sucked because they shot 2 a game. Hard to get a rhythm on 2 shots. He's a scorer/gunner who has a wicked Ricky Davis step back that he uses too much and that's why he rarely gets fouled.

A scorer who can't score. Don't need it. Also, FTs do not require getting into a rhythm, it is muscle memory, the same shot every time and developed through repetition. Two FTs a game is ample sample size.

[somuchyummy]

thrill, you keep saying ricky davis like it's a good thing. i remember the ricky davis era. it wasn't so good.

[somuchyummy]

I actually think need wings just as much as we need bigs, therefore I see it as balenced.

How do you figure? You plan on playing 4 wings at a time?

Meh. I could say the same to you about bigs. Towns, Saric, Gourgi, KBD vs. Wiggins, Covington, Okogie, Reynolds.

Each will likely get FA. We are sitting about the same with bigs and wings.

i beg to differ with your assessment. KBD - until he buffs up his noodley arms, legs, shoulders and chest - is a 3. so, in light of that, it's KAT, dieng and saric vs. wiggins, cov, okogie, KBD and reynolds. we do need more bigs than wings.

and here's the other thing about it. cov, okogie, KBD and reynolds are all playing about where we'd hope they'd be. we really shouldn't be chucking any of those guys to the curb. it's wiggins who is underperforming. the number ONE wing we have. and we're not getting rid of him. all FIVE of them are under contract. cutting bait on the lessers of the bunch doesn't make sense because they're kind of okay. long story short - we have enough wings. the only way we'd need to add is if, for some reason, we found a trade partner for wigs that didn't bring back another wing.

[mglviks]

Im on the French Freak train.

[mglviks]

Whos setting up the froob mock draft? Bout time for that to start.