Watch you will all get backhanded from behind by something no one expected. They don't find anyone offering near enough for Butler and no one will take Dieng with him. So they decide to send Dieng with the signed Towns instead because while fielding offers for Butler a team decided to throw in an offer for Towns since they would have him locked up longterm now. For this deal, the team will also take Dieng. The team can't pass up their return asset offer. Froob hell ignites!
Well Towns can't be moved till December now...
Maybe that's why THibs is reportedly trying to get Butler to return during preseason, after cooling off a bit. Play it out till December Jimmy and and ...
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 am
Common sense says a bunch of deals were put on the table today. Wolves need to weigh the options, and negotiate for a bit more with the suitors they like best, and a deal will happen tomorrow (Tuesday).
Thibs isnt common sense though. I seriously think he's trying to get fired to make his money.
And why do you think he's trying to get fired? He gets his money either way, that part of your statement is irrelevant. Please elaborate why a guy with two hats is trying to get fired?
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 am
Common sense says a bunch of deals were put on the table today. Wolves need to weigh the options, and negotiate for a bit more with the suitors they like best, and a deal will happen tomorrow (Tuesday).
Thibs isnt common sense though. I seriously think he's trying to get fired to make his money.
And why do you think he's trying to get fired? He gets his money either way, that part of your statement is irrelevant. Please elaborate why a guy with two hats is trying to get fired?
He gets paid if he quits? Guess I didn't know that and was wrong.
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 am
Common sense says a bunch of deals were put on the table today. Wolves need to weigh the options, and negotiate for a bit more with the suitors they like best, and a deal will happen tomorrow (Tuesday).
Thibs isnt common sense though. I seriously think he's trying to get fired to make his money.
And why do you think he's trying to get fired? He gets his money either way, that part of your statement is irrelevant. Please elaborate why a guy with two hats is trying to get fired?
He gets paid if he quits? Guess I didn't know that and was wrong.
Couldn't Taylor fire him for cause or insubordination now and be off the hook for paying him
And why do you think he's trying to get fired? He gets his money either way, that part of your statement is irrelevant. Please elaborate why a guy with two hats is trying to get fired?
He gets paid if he quits? Guess I didn't know that and was wrong.
Couldn't Taylor fire him for cause or insubordination now and be off the hook for paying him
Good luck. guaranteed contracts...
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
whiteside seems to hold some promise and meh at the same time. first off, yes - let's get a big rebounding shot blocker at the 5 and move KAT to the 4. works in multiple ways. but here's the big but - apparently the snag that riley and the coaching staff has had with whiteside is that he's .... immature. so... maybe... latching onto a guy with maturity problems isn't the best route to go when pairing someone with KAT and wigs.
my wish now - and call me crazy - would be to probe the depths of this thing with the kings. they are loaded with young talent - in need of more vets - and have been known to shoot themselves in the foot nearly as often as our front office has. anyway, see if they'd do butler for bogdanovich and WCS. they've got plenty of bigs to cover the loss of willie - bogdan is currently coming back from a little meniscus thing - so likely won't be ready for the start of the season - so maybe they'd go for a biggish name like butler in some delusional hope that they can resign him after this year. bogdanovich is certainly no butler - but he's an interesting piece to pair with KAT and wigs. decent size, surprisingly decent defender - nothing fantastic, but not a negative - probably was the most willing and effective passer on the kings last year - and hits nearly 40% of his threes. 26 years old.
There is little difference between the memory of a real event and the memory of a dream.
He gets paid if he quits? Guess I didn't know that and was wrong.
Couldn't Taylor fire him for cause or insubordination now and be off the hook for paying him
Good luck. guaranteed contracts...
That and Taylor would be blacklisted by the basketball community, condemned to hire Kahns of the world because no one worth a damn would come be in his shit show
Would he be forced to sell the team to someone who would move them to Seattle? If so, great!
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Does getting something better than LaVine/Dunn in return for Butler equate to a good deal or wash? I realize there was a swap of picks with the Butler trade but those are difficult to quantify.
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Does getting something better than LaVine/Dunn in return for Butler equate to a good deal or wash? I realize there was a swap of picks with the Butler trade but those are difficult to quantify.
LaVine on his old contract would be nice. I'd prefer a player as good as LaVine but switch his offensive ability for defensive.
All I know is that I'd much rather have Richardson and Bam than LaVine and Dunn... Lauri is the one that hurts
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Richardson, Bam or Winslow & Miami's 1st to Minny
Jimmy to Miami
Waiters (or whatever salary they want to send out), a future Miami 2nd and the Miami 2nd the Wolves hold to the Kings.
Optimistic on the Wolves side I think but that fits Thibsden's alleged criteria.
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Richardson, Bam or Winslow & Miami's 1st to Minny
Jimmy to Miami
Waiters (or whatever salary they want to send out), a future Miami 2nd and the Miami 2nd the Wolves hold to the Kings.
Optimistic on the Wolves side I think but that fits Thibsden's alleged criteria.
I am all for this deal. I would love to get Bam but Winslow has potential and did shoot 38% from 3. Let's hope this is what is being discussed even though I doubt it.
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Richardson, Bam or Winslow & Miami's 1st to Minny
Jimmy to Miami
Waiters (or whatever salary they want to send out), a future Miami 2nd and the Miami 2nd the Wolves hold to the Kings.
Optimistic on the Wolves side I think but that fits Thibsden's alleged criteria.
My guess is the Kings want that first rounder if they're taking on salary. For the Bam + Richardson deal for Butler, Miami needs to add another 5 mil to the trade.
Wolves get: Shumpert, Richardson and Winslow
Heat get: Koufos and Butler
Kings get: Dieng, Waiters, future first from Miami and a second from each team. Maybe more stuff too?
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Richardson, Bam or Winslow & Miami's 1st to Minny
Jimmy to Miami
Waiters (or whatever salary they want to send out), a future Miami 2nd and the Miami 2nd the Wolves hold to the Kings.
Optimistic on the Wolves side I think but that fits Thibsden's alleged criteria.
My guess is the Kings want that first rounder if they're taking on salary. For the Bam + Richardson deal for Butler, Miami needs to add another 5 mil to the trade.
Wolves get: Shumpert, Richardson and Winslow
Heat get: Koufos and Butler
Kings get: Dieng, Waiters, future first from Miami and a second from each team. Maybe more stuff too?
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:33 am
AP GUY/Jonny Athletic: Wolves looking for a starting caliber wing, young player and a pick.
Fine. CJ McCollum, Anfernee Simons, and a pick.
CJ would be perfect here.
If only Portland had a back bone and took a chance
Portland is not dealing McCollum here. They'd want to pair Butler with those two of course....
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
Richardson, Bam or Winslow & Miami's 1st to Minny
Jimmy to Miami
Waiters (or whatever salary they want to send out), a future Miami 2nd and the Miami 2nd the Wolves hold to the Kings.
Optimistic on the Wolves side I think but that fits Thibsden's alleged criteria.
My guess is the Kings want that first rounder if they're taking on salary. For the Bam + Richardson deal for Butler, Miami needs to add another 5 mil to the trade.
Wolves get: Shumpert, Richardson and Winslow
Heat get: Koufos and Butler
Kings get: Dieng, Waiters, future first from Miami and a second from each team. Maybe more stuff too?
Then the Joakim Noah dream really begins!
Right, perhaps they throw in Patton in this deal. I don't know what to think of his future...
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
Brett wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm
Remember how Woj operates folks. Thibs is being punished for running a tight-lipped front office.
It's pretty sad to hear Jonny K talk about how other teams are calling him because they can't get Layden on the phone. That was a real interesting interaction where Jon asked Layden that... Layden says who are your sources... Jon.. I can't tell you that.. they all laugh a bit.. Jon says if Layden was his source he'd protect him too.. Layden "we don't talk much"
thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:15 am
I’m a successful consultant for some of the biggest and best companies in the world. I tell you about systems architecture, not the other way around.
Brett wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:35 pm
Remember how Woj operates folks. Thibs is being punished for running a tight-lipped front office.
It's pretty sad to hear Jonny K talk about how other teams are calling him because they can't get Layden on the phone. That was a real interesting interaction where Jon asked Layden that... Layden says who are your sources... Jon.. I can't tell you that.. they all laugh a bit.. Jon says if Layden was his source he'd protect him too.. Layden "we don't talk much"
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:36 am
Common sense says a bunch of deals were put on the table today. Wolves need to weigh the options, and negotiate for a bit more with the suitors they like best, and a deal will happen tomorrow (Tuesday).
Thibs isnt common sense though. I seriously think he's trying to get fired to make his money.
And why do you think he's trying to get fired? He gets his money either way, that part of your statement is irrelevant. Please elaborate why a guy with two hats is trying to get fired?
He gets paid if he quits? Guess I didn't know that and was wrong.
Im pretty damn sure that he has a clause if he "quits" then taylor doesn't have to pay him the remainder of his contract.
I swear Scott said "Bravo" at the end of that exchange. That guy is a stiff, but he's got some personality buried in there. I'd be like Pop if I had to deal with these so called reporters around here. Terrible, weak questions galore.
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Among many details in story, league sources say Jimmy Butler sought out Minnesota owner Glen Taylor in recent days for reassurances trade talks were proceeding in good faith.
What is going on? You have to fire Thibs. This is actually an embarrassment to a franchise/business.
