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Interesting how they always seem to have a roster full of white fellows....
They're one of the few schools that expects players to get accepted and attend class. Those requirements eliminate a lot of great prospects.
Minnesota has had problems getting kids admitted.The Replacements wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:05 pmThey're one of the few schools that expects players to get accepted and attend class. Those requirements eliminate a lot of great prospects.
I have a feeling when the initial contact is made with a player, they know if the player is interested. Any prospect that wants to "play fast" or "get to the NBA" usually goes somewhere else. I suspect they had initial conversations with every Minnesota prospect.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:15 pmMinnesota has had problems getting kids admitted.The Replacements wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:05 pmThey're one of the few schools that expects players to get accepted and attend class. Those requirements eliminate a lot of great prospects.
I am curious on Wisconsin, why have they not offered Aligbe yet but did offer Heide? Perhaps it's realistic expectations, not race. Aligbe will be a five star talent with every school offering. Get in on a guy like Heide early who projects to be a top 100 4 star player...
Yeah, unfortunately for people who like to see kids stay local.... Johnson already has some Duke rumors out there.The Replacements wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:24 pmI have a feeling when the initial contact is made with a player, they know if the player is interested. Any prospect that wants to "play fast" or "get to the NBA" usually goes somewhere else. I suspect they had initial conversations with every Minnesota prospect.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:15 pmMinnesota has had problems getting kids admitted.The Replacements wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:05 pm
They're one of the few schools that expects players to get accepted and attend class. Those requirements eliminate a lot of great prospects.
I am curious on Wisconsin, why have they not offered Aligbe yet but did offer Heide? Perhaps it's realistic expectations, not race. Aligbe will be a five star talent with every school offering. Get in on a guy like Heide early who projects to be a top 100 4 star player...
Their recruiting (offered) Jalen Johnson (5 star from Madison/Milwaukee) even though their chances of landing him are less than 2%. That's more for local PR. That's the same story with Patrick Baldwin Jr.
Baldwin is rumored to Duke as well. I could see Johnson going to Kentucky.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:28 pmYeah, unfortunately for people who like to see kids stay local.... Johnson already has some Duke rumors out there.The Replacements wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:24 pmI have a feeling when the initial contact is made with a player, they know if the player is interested. Any prospect that wants to "play fast" or "get to the NBA" usually goes somewhere else. I suspect they had initial conversations with every Minnesota prospect.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:15 pm
Minnesota has had problems getting kids admitted.
I am curious on Wisconsin, why have they not offered Aligbe yet but did offer Heide? Perhaps it's realistic expectations, not race. Aligbe will be a five star talent with every school offering. Get in on a guy like Heide early who projects to be a top 100 4 star player...
Their recruiting (offered) Jalen Johnson (5 star from Madison/Milwaukee) even though their chances of landing him are less than 2%. That's more for local PR. That's the same story with Patrick Baldwin Jr.
There are a ton of coaches passing through here right now and rightfully so... all these kids are fairly close to each other in the metro area so you can make a day trip to see 6-7 top 100 recruits regardless of class. It's insane how much talent is in this area right now considering the market... you expect this with the big cities but can you get around that easy? East Ridge (2) to Minnehaha (3) to Prior Lake (1)… you just covered a nice chunk of talent.
At least the Gophers beat them on that one...
I think Holloman and Heide will eventually be top 150 players.. I haven't seen Heide on video but his name came up this year. Wayzata lost to Hopkins in the section finals. Hopkins wins state again of course..The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:07 pmHow good are the 2 guys the Badgers offered?
Maybe for the guys Wisconsin actually gets I suppose.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 amWhat's funny to Badger fans is the Gophers always seem to offer Minnesota recruits within days after the Wisconsin offer.
Gophers always seem to slow play the local guys. Not sure why.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:30 amMaybe for the guys Wisconsin actually gets I suppose.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 amWhat's funny to Badger fans is the Gophers always seem to offer Minnesota recruits within days after the Wisconsin offer.
Like Pitino said recently in an interview, you can't take all the local kids. When the Badgers got Reuvers/Davison, Pitino was hard after Jericho Sims, Theo John and McKinley Wright. It appears he was right to target Wright over Davison (from a pg perspective at least) but then they took Washington over Wright which was obviously a huge mistake.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:31 amGophers always seem to slow play the local guys. Not sure why.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:30 amMaybe for the guys Wisconsin actually gets I suppose.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 am
What's funny to Badger fans is the Gophers always seem to offer Minnesota recruits within days after the Wisconsin offer.
If I was the local coach, I would still recruit local players even if I don't offer them right away. If they had a relationship with Davison, he might have been an option. It seems like Pitino likes to recruit nationally like his father and that may not be the best idea with all the local talent.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:42 amLike Pitino said recently in an interview, you can't take all the local kids. When the Badgers got Reuvers/Davison, Pitino was hard after Jericho Sims, Theo John and McKinley Wright. It appears he was right to target Wright over Davison (from a pg perspective at least) but then they took Washington over Wright which was obviously a huge mistake.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:31 amGophers always seem to slow play the local guys. Not sure why.
I don't know why they eventually offered Davison, sounded like he wanted to be a Gopher most of his life and then Pitino didn't connect with him until it was way too late.
Gophers slow played Tyler Wahl, Tyrell Terry and David Roddy last year and in the case of Roddy, his parents did not want him to come here for that simple reason.
Nice to offer Heide (a freshman) now but he still hasn't offered JVonne Hadley or Steven Crowl, two local 2020 kids who will 100% be high major players. Is that a mistake? IMO yes. But he's also hot after Dawson Garcia, Kerwin Walton and Jalen Suggs instead.
I don't know that Richard is a big recruiter, I think he defers to his assistants a ton on recruiting. Ben Johnson was the local guy obviously until he left, now it sounds like it's a combo platter of all the coaches recruiting locally but Richard is more involved now than he was when Johnson was here.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:03 amIf I was the local coach, I would still recruit local players even if I don't offer them right away. If they had a relationship with Davison, he might have been an option. It seems like Pitino likes to recruit nationally like his father and that may not be the best idea with all the local talent.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:42 amLike Pitino said recently in an interview, you can't take all the local kids. When the Badgers got Reuvers/Davison, Pitino was hard after Jericho Sims, Theo John and McKinley Wright. It appears he was right to target Wright over Davison (from a pg perspective at least) but then they took Washington over Wright which was obviously a huge mistake.The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:31 am
Gophers always seem to slow play the local guys. Not sure why.
I don't know why they eventually offered Davison, sounded like he wanted to be a Gopher most of his life and then Pitino didn't connect with him until it was way too late.
Gophers slow played Tyler Wahl, Tyrell Terry and David Roddy last year and in the case of Roddy, his parents did not want him to come here for that simple reason.
Nice to offer Heide (a freshman) now but he still hasn't offered JVonne Hadley or Steven Crowl, two local 2020 kids who will 100% be high major players. Is that a mistake? IMO yes. But he's also hot after Dawson Garcia, Kerwin Walton and Jalen Suggs instead.
HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:10 amThat's either bullshit or a good reason to find a new coach. He had nearly zero coaching experience when he arrived, so if he can't recruit, what can he do?The Replacements wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:03 am
I don't know that Richard is a big recruiter, I think he defers to his assistants a ton on recruiting. Ben Johnson was the local guy obviously until he left, now it sounds like it's a combo platter of all the coaches recruiting locally but Richard is more involved now than he was when Johnson was here.
Get out there and close on good recruits and create lasting relationships with good programs around the state.
Obviously he can recruit and he talks to recruits all the time. I'm simply saying I think he defers to assistants a lot to go find the guys and then they decide together who to go after. So if Ben Johnson locally preferred McKinley Wright over Brad Davison, or if Kimani Young preferred Washington over someone else, Pitino went with the recommendations. I saw Pitino with Ben a lot when it came to watching local kids play but I don't know that you ever saw Pitino there by himself. Ben was the contact.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:26 amThat's either bullshit or a good reason to find a new coach. He had nearly zero coaching experience when he arrived, so if he can't recruit, what can he do?HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:10 am
I don't know that Richard is a big recruiter, I think he defers to his assistants a ton on recruiting. Ben Johnson was the local guy obviously until he left, now it sounds like it's a combo platter of all the coaches recruiting locally but Richard is more involved now than he was when Johnson was here.
Get out there and close on good recruits and create lasting relationships with good programs around the state.
This sounds like my Froob chatting yesterday.cmd24 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:02 pm Aligbe was quietly a beast last Saturday in Waseca. So good on the glass and on the defensive end. You can see he’s got offensive talent, but knows when to just go with the flow of the game. He didn’t have to do a lot of scoring, but still fills the stat sheet.
