Yeah, I was just sick of hearing that excuse from him last year. No more excuses. Win or GTFO.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:48 pmToo young? Robbins and Gach both went to prep schools and are three years removed from HS now (I think). Carr same deal due to transfer, Kalscheur a junior, Curry would be a fifth year guy next year, Johnson a grad transfer.... this is a veteran group!jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm I can already hear the Little Richard excuse machine this winter. We're too young. We're too new to the program. I don't know how to coach.
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2020 Gophers Hoops Recruits
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This. I read a comment a few back back on yahoo sports about Gach and I took a look in the comments section and a fan from one of the other schools he was picking from (Can't remember exactly which one) said "Why would he go to Minnesota, Pitino has done less with talent than about anyone"jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:17 pmYeah, I was just sick of hearing that excuse from him last year. No more excuses. Win or GTFO.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:48 pmToo young? Robbins and Gach both went to prep schools and are three years removed from HS now (I think). Carr same deal due to transfer, Kalscheur a junior, Curry would be a fifth year guy next year, Johnson a grad transfer.... this is a veteran group!jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm I can already hear the Little Richard excuse machine this winter. We're too young. We're too new to the program. I don't know how to coach.
Great gets, but it's results time on the floor or move on already.
Time to shit or get off the pot.
Finish in the top 5 of Big 10 and win a tourney game or two.
Many here will except a bubble team and dumped right away in the tournament. Not me.
I think this team could be very good with the right HC. With Pitino, it probably ends up a bubble team. Hey, it looks better than a month ago.
It isn't Oturu and Walton though and those are the types Richard needs to go where we want to go imo.
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This team went from below average to top 4 in the big 10. They need to clear two more hurdles with Robbins and Gach getting wavers. Robbins, Johnson, Gach, Gabe, Carr is a really good starting 5 along with great depth.
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If Richard doesn't make the tourney, he's gone one way or another. Might as well bring in a few more seasoned players to try and get him there.
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Unfortunately the team just wasn't all that good last year beyond Oturu and Carr... Kalscheur is a nice piece but probably shouldn't be your third scoring option... I like the balance the team will have (AND DEPTH) next year. Gach was a huge get though for that wing spot... if somehow Curry is healthy and Robbins isn't eligible, I still like this team. They have options at center though it's up in the air what it looks like if Robbins doesn't play. If they didn't have Gach though, Tre Williams probably starts... oh Ihnen at the three? Not ideal at this point.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:17 pmYeah, I was just sick of hearing that excuse from him last year. No more excuses. Win or GTFO.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:48 pmToo young? Robbins and Gach both went to prep schools and are three years removed from HS now (I think). Carr same deal due to transfer, Kalscheur a junior, Curry would be a fifth year guy next year, Johnson a grad transfer.... this is a veteran group!jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm I can already hear the Little Richard excuse machine this winter. We're too young. We're too new to the program. I don't know how to coach.
Great gets, but it's results time on the floor or move on already.
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Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
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Auburn, Maryland and Iowa St were after him. Guess they don't know how either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
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Pitino has to chase transfer after transfer after transfer because he can't put together a team through highschool recruits. I'm not knocking the player, I'm knocking Dick Pit.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 amAuburn, Maryland and Iowa St were after him. Guess they don't know how either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
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Mashburn and Mitchell were top 150 players. So were Ihnen and Tre Williams.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:39 amPitino has to chase transfer after transfer after transfer because he can't put together a team through highschool recruits. I'm not knocking the player, I'm knocking Dick Pit.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 amAuburn, Maryland and Iowa St were after him. Guess they don't know how either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
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You get top 150 recruits almost by default playing in the big ten. There's 64 power 5 teams...how many of those teams also have at least 4 top 150 or former top 150s?HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:55 amMashburn and Mitchell were top 150 players. So were Ihnen and Tre Williams.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:39 amPitino has to chase transfer after transfer after transfer because he can't put together a team through highschool recruits. I'm not knocking the player, I'm knocking Dick Pit.
It's similar to MLBs top 100 prospects...they aren't that special, every team has them.
Year after year Pitino has to fill holes with multiple transfers because he can't form a roster through recruiting highschoolers
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Good for the Gophers! No matter who the coach is of how they get their players, I’m happy for the kids
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Bubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 amAuburn, Maryland and Iowa St were after him. Guess they don't know how either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
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He raised expectations for the team by having a starting lineup (potentially) of Carr, Kalscheur, Gach, Johnson and Robbins. With Mashburn Jr, Williams, Ihnen, Curry, Omersa off the bench, the expectations are tourney or bust, zero questions!Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pmBubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 amAuburn, Maryland and Iowa St were after him. Guess they don't know how either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
Gach was hurt a lot last year too supposedly. I haven't seen him a ton but based on the teams after him, especially Maryland and Iowa St who were trying to sell him on being the main ball handler... I think Pitino landed a good one.
Tubby was 10x worse especially at the end when he didn't appear to care much for recruiting.
I'm excited! Additions of Robbins, Johnson, Gach, Mashburn and Mitchell help cover the loss of Oturu and Willis to a much lesser extent.
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I like Pitino's personality so in that sense I hope it works out for him... his overall record says he shouldn't still have this job but this is the year (assuming there is college hoops) for him to have some good results next to his name. This is the deepest team since 16-17 for sure.
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He's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pmBubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 amAuburn, Maryland and Iowa St were after him. Guess they don't know how either.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am Lol, another transfer. Pitino has no idea how to build a program.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
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I don't know if he's a better recruiter than Tubby. Tubby got some similar type prospects coming out of highschool, arguably better....Rodney Williams, Royce White, Ralph Sampson, Colt Iverson, Justin Cobbs, Mo Walker, Austin Hollins, Andre Hollins, Joe Coleman, Wally Elenson...these guys were all as, or more highly touted than the guys Pitino has been bringing in the last 7 years.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pmHe's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pmBubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
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Agreed.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:04 pmI don't know if he's a better recruiter than Tubby. Tubby got some similar type prospects coming out of highschool, arguably better....Rodney Williams, Royce White, Ralph Sampson, Colt Iverson, Justin Cobbs, Mo Walker, Austin Hollins, Andre Hollins, Joe Coleman, Wally Elenson...these guys were all as, or more highly touted than the guys Pitino has been bringing in the last 7 years.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pmHe's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pm
Bubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
Every year we keep hearing how good Pitino is recruiting. He must be a horrible coach then because we are rarely good with no consistent success.
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I don't really ever hear how great he is recruiting...where are you getting this from?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:33 amAgreed.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:04 pmI don't know if he's a better recruiter than Tubby. Tubby got some similar type prospects coming out of highschool, arguably better....Rodney Williams, Royce White, Ralph Sampson, Colt Iverson, Justin Cobbs, Mo Walker, Austin Hollins, Andre Hollins, Joe Coleman, Wally Elenson...these guys were all as, or more highly touted than the guys Pitino has been bringing in the last 7 years.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pm
He's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
Every year we keep hearing how good Pitino is recruiting. He must be a horrible coach then because we are rarely good with no consistent success.
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It's talked about any time Richard is mentioned. Not sure how you haven't heard it. He's been starting to get called out the last couple of years.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:51 amI don't really ever hear how great he is recruiting...where are you getting this from?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:33 amAgreed.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:04 pm
I don't know if he's a better recruiter than Tubby. Tubby got some similar type prospects coming out of highschool, arguably better....Rodney Williams, Royce White, Ralph Sampson, Colt Iverson, Justin Cobbs, Mo Walker, Austin Hollins, Andre Hollins, Joe Coleman, Wally Elenson...these guys were all as, or more highly touted than the guys Pitino has been bringing in the last 7 years.
Every year we keep hearing how good Pitino is recruiting. He must be a horrible coach then because we are rarely good with no consistent success.
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Tubby's first two classes here were incredible... and then it started to fall off. His last couple of classes were pretty bad and that's why he got canned.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:04 pmI don't know if he's a better recruiter than Tubby. Tubby got some similar type prospects coming out of highschool, arguably better....Rodney Williams, Royce White, Ralph Sampson, Colt Iverson, Justin Cobbs, Mo Walker, Austin Hollins, Andre Hollins, Joe Coleman, Wally Elenson...these guys were all as, or more highly touted than the guys Pitino has been bringing in the last 7 years.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pmHe's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pm
Bubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
Wally Ellenson? Geez.... he was terrible.
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Name some names.... show me who the gold guys are..... Jelly that everyone was excited about and turned out to be a dud?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pmHe's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pmBubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
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Jelly was a top 150 though!HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:38 amName some names.... show me who the gold guys are..... Jelly that everyone was excited about and turned out to be a dud?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pmHe's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:46 pm
Bubu's right - he's trying to piece together a team to get to bubble status. Where have we heard this story before? Gach scored 10 pts/gm, committed 3 TO/gm and shot 25% from 3. He's not coming in to save the season.
Pitino is a shitty recruiter. Just not as shitty as Tubby, who is now at Highpoint (maybe). He's landed 2 of __ important recruits from Minnesota in 7 years. Unlike Tubby, he wasn't qualified to coach in the Big Ten when he arrived as a desperation hire by Teague.
They keep giving him one more year because his agent leveraged a better deal than the university. Great guy, not great coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
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He was like top 60-70!bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:35 pmJelly was a top 150 though!HeHateMe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:38 amName some names.... show me who the gold guys are..... Jelly that everyone was excited about and turned out to be a dud?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:27 pm
He's a slightly better recruiter than Tubby and a worse coach.
I don't get all excited until I see the product. There are some here that claim we have struck recruiting gold year after year and most of these guys never end up being that good..
I'll wait and see.
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Why would he need to excuse a Big Ten Title and Final 4?jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm I can already hear the Little Richard excuse machine this winter. We're too young. We're too new to the program. I don't know how to coach.
Great gets, but it's results time on the floor or move on already.
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Now are we done? Is it wrong that I am expecting that someone else is going to leave next week and open up another spot that Richard needs to fill? I guess there is still a 25% chance Carr doesn't come back...
Pretty solid looking recruiting class.
Pretty solid looking recruiting class.
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Huh.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm I can already hear the Little Richard excuse machine this winter. We're too young. We're too new to the program. I don't know how to coach.
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Past history says there is always a chance someone could head out.... but Carr will be back... Kalscheur is in place, Mashburn and Mitchell are moving on campus soon. All three big transfers are signed.
Now it's a waiting game on the waiver stuff for Robbins and then Gach.
Pretty good lineup though on paper!
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Pretty good? Stop underselling to these whiny chumps. Just added the best transfer class in the country by a stretch and it's a bad thing? Good recruiting class a bad thing too? What a loser for coaching Oturu into a lotto pick. What is he a moron? All these other guys will probably be good and then leave too.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:17 pmPast history says there is always a chance someone could head out.... but Carr will be back... Kalscheur is in place, Mashburn and Mitchell are moving on campus soon. All three big transfers are signed.
Now it's a waiting game on the waiver stuff for Robbins and then Gach.
Pretty good lineup though on paper!
Look forward to all you pussies watching the last 5 Big ten games of our championship and claiming you were on board from the jump.