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We have two heavyweights from this state that have had a huge impact on pop culture in this country. Which one do you think was most influential, Bob Dylan or Prince?

Dylan because of the era he was in. He's in multiple Hall Of Fame's, changed folk music, invented country-rock, was one of the first artists to release songs longer than 3 min, wrote "All Along the Watchtower" for Hendrix, produced decades of music and remained popular, was named one of Time magazines 100 Most Important People of the Century, made poetry cool again, an dnever did what was popular at the time and went his own way.

Prince was talented and awesome, but Dylan was a pop icon from the 50's to present. His list of accomplishments and people he influenced is matched by few.

Prince

Dylan...without question.

But...who is third?

Stork311 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 am Dylan...without question.

But...who is third?

i'll put westererg out there and see if anybody can top it.

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:46 amPrince

Personally I like Price's music better than Dylan's but I think Dylan was iconic among generations. Dude was there for the cross-over to electric guitar and still made it.

If I'm ignoring the other guys Dan Wilson has written some songs with a lot of reach.

Closing Time - love it or hate it it is a well crafted song (I don't care for it)
He co-wrote 3 tunes on that Adele album that was huge including "Someone Like You" (not to be confused with the Scorpions song of the same name)

The list of songwriting/producing credits is way larger than I assumed.

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:54 am If I'm ignoring the other guys Dan Wilson has written some songs with a lot of reach.

Closing Time - love it or hate it it is a well crafted song (I don't care for it)
He co-wrote 3 tunes on that Adele album that was huge including "Someone Like You" (not to be confused with the Scorpions song of the same name)

The list of songwriting/producing credits is way larger than I assumed.

FRIENDS!!!!!!!

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:54 am If I'm ignoring the other guys Dan Wilson has written some songs with a lot of reach.

Closing Time - love it or hate it it is a well crafted song (I don't care for it)
He co-wrote 3 tunes on that Adele album that was huge including "Someone Like You" (not to be confused with the Scorpions song of the same name)

The list of songwriting/producing credits is way larger than I assumed.

FRIENDS!!!!!!!

That was the Rembrandts.

Stork311 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 am Dylan...without question.

But...who is third?

Dave Ellefson!

Johnny Holm
Angry Waters
Will Bauermeister

Both incredibly influential. If it's about who I like more: Prince.

Angry Waters wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:27 pm

Stork311 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 am Dylan...without question.

But...who is third?

Dave Ellefson!

Yes!



“Dave Ellefson was a complete, white-bread pussy from Jackson, Minnesota, and he developed into a bass player that people really respected, but then we both got sucked into the drugs thing.”


-Dave Mustaine

For me on influence it’s easily Dylan.


Prince was the far better musician and performer, though.

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:54 am If I'm ignoring the other guys Dan Wilson has written some songs with a lot of reach.

Closing Time - love it or hate it it is a well crafted song (I don't care for it)
He co-wrote 3 tunes on that Adele album that was huge including "Someone Like You" (not to be confused with the Scorpions song of the same name)

The list of songwriting/producing credits is way larger than I assumed.

FRIENDS!!!!!!!

That was the Rembrandts.

I think one of those dudes was from Duluth.

cmd24 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm Johnny Holm
Angry Waters
Will Bauermeister

He won't get top billing but Paul Westerberg is up there along with the Wilson Bros.

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were aight as well.

Any answer other than Dylan is wrong. No other musician from MN has won a Nobel Prize, so that kind of ends the conversation.

prince was three years old when bob released his first album. he just released another one this year to rave reviews.

Dan33185 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:07 pm Any answer other than Dylan is wrong. No other musician from MN has won a Nobel Prize, so that kind of ends the conversation.

While I don’t like the “you’re just wrong” style of discussion, the Nobel Prize is a strong point.

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:54 am If I'm ignoring the other guys Dan Wilson has written some songs with a lot of reach.

Closing Time - love it or hate it it is a well crafted song (I don't care for it)
He co-wrote 3 tunes on that Adele album that was huge including "Someone Like You" (not to be confused with the Scorpions song of the same name)

The list of songwriting/producing credits is way larger than I assumed.

FRIENDS!!!!!!!

That was the Rembrandts.

No, that's 500 miles

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 am

FRIENDS!!!!!!!

That was the Rembrandts.

No, that's 500 miles

Cooper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:43 am

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

That was the Rembrandts.

No, that's 500 miles

I was thinking of Phil Solem, he played with Michael Bland in a band back in the day.

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:48 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:43 am

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am

No, that's 500 miles

I was thinking of Phil Solem, he played with Michael Bland in a band back in the day.

Michael Bland - exceptional groove layer.

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 am

FRIENDS!!!!!!!

That was the Rembrandts.

No, that's 500 miles

Don't give him the runaround.

Slap Shot wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:57 pm

Dr. Linux wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am

Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

That was the Rembrandts.

No, that's 500 miles

Don't give him the runaround.

Ha, King Crimson rules ass!

Not sure how INFLUENTIAL Prince was. Can't think of many artists who have obviously emulated Prince. IMO, for what he did, Prince almost stands alone. On the other hand, there are countless bands who have worked the Replacements vibe.

Blandon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:18 pm Not sure how INFLUENTIAL Prince was.

https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/14- ... nce-767323

Hands down Prince and it is not even close.

Probably Prince, but also, maybe Dylan. Probably Dylan though. But it could be Prince.

How about next time the OP doesn't ask such an easy and stupid question?