The Dirt

[cmd24]

Comes out today on Netflix. I'm really not sure what to think. I feel like it's going to be cheesy, but I have nothing to back that up. I've read The Dirt, however. I know I'll watch it, but I have this feeling that it's going to be a let down. Maybe Bohemian Rhapsody and Straight Outta Compton spoiled me for music bio-pics.

[Lightning]

I know zero about it, how it looks, who's in it, etc but I'll check it out. I have visions of "Hysteria – The Def Leppard Story" though.

[cmd24]

I know zero about it, how it looks, who's in it, etc but I'll check it out. I have visions of "Hysteria – The Def Leppard Story" though.

I think I do, too. That might be why I have a bad feeling about it. And maybe the Netflix only release. That shouldn't make we hesitant about it, because I know Netflix has good stuff.

[Night Train]

Do you think they'll talk about how Vince Neil killed a dude?

[Lightning]

That 'd be a huge omission if they didn't acknowledge that chapter in their run.

[feekdogg]

Do you think they'll talk about how Vince Neil killed a dude?

They do. Kill a guy and do a couple weeks in the pokey.

[cmd24]

Just watched it. It's not Def Leppard story bad, but it certainly isn't Bohemian Rhapsody. Other than the Vince Neil actor, I didn't think the casting was horrible. Beyond that, I'm not sure how much justice they could do to that book. Certainly one of the best music autobiographies that I've ever read.

[Ask Not]

Just watched it. It's not Def Leppard story bad, but it certainly isn't Bohemian Rhapsody. Other than the Vince Neil actor, I didn't think the casting was horrible. Beyond that, I'm not sure how much justice they could do to that book. Certainly one of the best music autobiographies that I've ever read.

Have you been blocked from the main forum? My back can't handle the workload much longer.

[cmd24]

Just watched it. It's not Def Leppard story bad, but it certainly isn't Bohemian Rhapsody. Other than the Vince Neil actor, I didn't think the casting was horrible. Beyond that, I'm not sure how much justice they could do to that book. Certainly one of the best music autobiographies that I've ever read.

Have you been blocked from the main forum? My back can't handle the workload much longer.

Some of us have a job-ish.

[Beef Supreme]

I kinda like the Crue, so take this in the spirit it is offered.


Vince has not aged well...



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Yikes...

[Dr. Linux]

I kinda like the Crue, so take this in the spirit it is offered.


Vince has not aged well...



Yikes...

That was like a legit 'shreds' video for vox. Hysterical.

[cmd24]

I kinda like the Crue, so take this in the spirit it is offered.


Vince has not aged well...



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Yikes...

The last few live performance videos of seen of them have been terrible. It’s bad enough that poor Mick Mars has to stand up there with the physical issues he has. But then you take Vince’s singing, and it’s a shame. I can’t tell if he’s out of breath, forgot the words, or both!

[-Jaymo-]

Joe Dirt was better than The Dirt.

Hell, Joe Dirt II was better.

[laX]

watched it last night - not bad. i was entertained. had no idea mick mars had such health issues.... dude could shred

[Lightning]

I appreciated the recreations of the video shoots and the different eras of duds they wore. I sorta forgot how into them I was when I was 14.

[Herky]

Who knew Ramsay Bolton could play guitar?

[laX]

i thought razzle was slash for some reason - my wife kept trying to talk to me and didnt catch who he was until the obituary

[Dude]

Watched this on Saturday. It wasn't horrible, but it would be tough to recommend to anyone who wasn't a huge fan of 80's metal or Motley Crue. Nothing happened in the movie that wasn't common knowledge to fans of that genre aside from the poolside piss licking contest- which was bizarre.

[cmd24]

Who knew Ramsay Bolton could play guitar?

I’m just about done with the most recent Eddie Trunk podcast, that has Nikki, Tommy, Ramsay, and the dude that played Nikki. Ramsay said he actually plays in real life. They also had to all attend a band camp, of sorts, before they started shooting the movie. Machine Gun Kelly (Tommy) is the only one that had any professional music experience.

[Herky]

Who knew Ramsay Bolton could play guitar?

I’m just about done with the most recent Eddie Trunk podcast, that has Nikki, Tommy, Ramsay, and the dude that played Nikki. Ramsay said he actually plays in real life. They also had to all attend a band camp, of sorts, before they started shooting the movie. Machine Gun Kelly (Tommy) is the only one that had any professional music experience.

I'll have to check that out.

[Jimtown guy]

Hard to believe any of them are still alive. I thought it was decent. Huge MC fan back in the day. Going to go see Vince in Fargo in June at Ribfest. Heard he sucks now but I’m going for the ribs more than his music

[Jimtown guy]

Lies that were told in the movie
https://youtu.be/UuHvN4l6amY

[Blandon]

I thought the movie was awful. Bad cast. Worse acting. The characters were all written very one-dimensionally.

If you knew the basic story, you learned nothing from watching this movie.

City Pages summed up their review with "bad wigs plus bad acting equals a bad movie."

[Beef Supreme]

I thought it was okay. Too much material for under 2hours, though. It did a shallow wade into some deep moments (sixx’s Overdose, the death of Vince’s daughter, the car crash thing, the breakup, etc.). Those are heavy life moments that didn’t hit hard in the movie because it was trying to tell everything and didn’t properly set up those moments or give them the time they are due.

Probably would have been a better movie if they didn’t try to go ‘81 all the way to the mid-90’s. Too much story to tell and they did a disservice by just dabbling in everything and not really digging into anything. Made for a shallow story.

But it was kind of funny at times. I didn’t hate it.

[-Jaymo-]

Hard to believe any of them are still alive. I thought it was decent. Huge MC fan back in the day. Going to go see Vince in Fargo in June at Ribfest. Heard he sucks now but I’m going for the ribs more than his music

Zoltan is worth the price of admission alone.





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[cmd24]

I thought the movie was awful. Bad cast. Worse acting. The characters were all written very one-dimensionally.

If you knew the basic story, you learned nothing from watching this movie.

City Pages summed up their review with "bad wigs plus bad acting equals a bad movie."

How do you propose writing the characters, when they’re coming from the book/real life?

And, what did you expect to learn from it, that you didn’t already know? If you’ve read the book, of course you’d learn nothing. If you haven’t read the book, there wasn’t much more you could learn that wasn’t on Behind The Music. Nobody is going to watch this movie, that isn’t really a fan of the Crue.

At least this wasn’t as bad as the Def Leppard movie.

[Blandon]

I thought the movie was awful. Bad cast. Worse acting. The characters were all written very one-dimensionally.

If you knew the basic story, you learned nothing from watching this movie.

City Pages summed up their review with "bad wigs plus bad acting equals a bad movie."

How do you propose writing the characters, when they’re coming from the book/real life?

And, what did you expect to learn from it, that you didn’t already know? If you’ve read the book, of course you’d learn nothing. If you haven’t read the book, there wasn’t much more you could learn that wasn’t on Behind The Music. Nobody is going to watch this movie, that isn’t really a fan of the Crue.

At least this wasn’t as bad as the Def Leppard movie.

For example: Mick Mars is portrayed as physically ill and grumpy. That's it. Completely flat character.

How to do better? Maybe ask Mick Mars "is there something we should know about you apart from what's in the book or Behind the Music? Then include that info in the movie. Is that expecting too much?

I hoped to learn something I didn't know about Mars or the others. And I didn't.

[EnLiteEndOne]

I'm not much of a Crue fan but watched this last night.

The lifestyle of Rock & Roll excess and debauchary is intriguing and revolting at the same time. Kind of like a car crash. I would call the movie the same, cool & gross (cool story to tell, gross lifestyle).
There is nothing redeemable from a cinematic critique standpoint. The only good acting performance was from David Costabile (Doc McGhee) and not much was even asked of him. MGK as Tommy Lee was pretty likable and certainly had a visual similarity as they aged, but was still just a decent at best debut acting performance.

2/5 dongs.

[Herky]

Hard to believe any of them are still alive. I thought it was decent. Huge MC fan back in the day. Going to go see Vince in Fargo in June at Ribfest. Heard he sucks now but I’m going for the ribs more than his music

I think he's up and down but when he's down he's really bad. He still parties from what I've heard so maybe that hinders his singing along with age.

He filled in at the last minute for Lynyrd Skynyrd at the fair here 2 years ago when they pulled out due to a member getting sick. He seriously kicked ass that night. I had heard all the stories and seen the You Tube clips of bad performances but he was on the night I saw him. Might have been rare and it was 2 years ago but I had fun.

[cmd24]

I thought the movie was awful. Bad cast. Worse acting. The characters were all written very one-dimensionally.

If you knew the basic story, you learned nothing from watching this movie.

City Pages summed up their review with "bad wigs plus bad acting equals a bad movie."

How do you propose writing the characters, when they’re coming from the book/real life?

And, what did you expect to learn from it, that you didn’t already know? If you’ve read the book, of course you’d learn nothing. If you haven’t read the book, there wasn’t much more you could learn that wasn’t on Behind The Music. Nobody is going to watch this movie, that isn’t really a fan of the Crue.

At least this wasn’t as bad as the Def Leppard movie.

For example: Mick Mars is portrayed as physically ill and grumpy. That's it. Completely flat character.

How to do better? Maybe ask Mick Mars "is there something we should know about you apart from what's in the book or Behind the Music? Then include that info in the movie. Is that expecting too much?

I hoped to learn something I didn't know about Mars or the others. And I didn't.

Pretty much all of Mars' story is in the the book. Mick Mars was a physically ill and grumpy person, that stayed out of the public. You got the basis of Mars in that era. The meat of his story came later in life, in a stage of the band that they didn't put in the movie. This show was destined to be a hot or cold show because they tried to squeeze a pretty damn good book in to two hours. It wasn't possible. They took some liberties with some of the story lines, but again, if anyone that read the book was expecting something more out of the movie, then that's on the viewer. I didn't have "Bohemian Rhapsody" expectations of this movie because of that. Iwan spent a fair amount of time on the phone with Mick, per Tommy and Nikki during an Eddie Trunk interview, and garnered quite a bit of info from him. And again, he was a very private member of the band, even back then. I don't know how much more they could've got out of him for the time that the movie covers.

Movies are never as good as the books, either. If you haven't read it, I would highly suggest doing so. It's a lot better than what was portrayed.

For the record, I don't think it was a great movie, by any means. I was entertained, but I didn't have high hopes going in to it, so maybe that helped. I would've like to see it go in some of the shit they dealt with coming in to the early 2000's.