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STP? shit or brilliant?
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My first rock and roll love at the age of 13 listening to Core. Given the history what say you? Core was great, and Purple was made for MTV unplugged, but came out a year too late.. then chester grabbed the head and they became resurgent... meanwhile Scott made Slash relevant again.. what say you?
Be Stone Temple Pilots worthy?
Yea or nay?
Be Stone Temple Pilots worthy?
Yea or nay?
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Re: STP? shit or brilliant?
Both. Depends which song.
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They were outstanding. A lot better musicians than what they’ve really been credit for. Can’t discount that Scott Weiland is one of the best frontmen of all time. That’s not to say he was one of the best singers, though. He had an extremely strong presence, however.
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Saw them in 1993 with The Butthole Surfers at Trout Air, with the Meat Puppets in 94 at Roy Wilkins, at 93X Fest in 2000, and for their 2008 reunion tour also at Roy Wilkins. Wasn't disappointed with any of them and the reunion show might have even been the best one. Good luck to Jeff Gutt not having the same fate as Weiland and Chester.
btw does Trout Air even have shows any more?
btw does Trout Air even have shows any more?
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I was at XFest in 2000, too. Wasn’t really a fan of them, at the time. Their show that evening sold me in them, big time. Couldn’t get enough STP after that. Saw them at Roy Wilkins later that fall. You’re right, they never disappointed at a live show.Slap Shot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:49 am Saw them in 1993 with The Butthole Surfers at Trout Air, with the Meat Puppets in 94 at Roy Wilkins, at 93X Fest in 2000, and for their 2008 reunion tour also at Roy Wilkins. Wasn't disappointed with any of them and the reunion show might have even been the best one. Good luck to Jeff Gutt not having the same fate as Weiland and Chester.
btw does Trout Air even have shows any more?
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Pretty good.
Not great.
Not great.
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I'd put STP as one of the great rock bands of the 90s. While they didn't seem unique at the time considering everything that was coming out, they released three very good albums.
It's a shame Weiland couldn't control his addictions.
It's a shame Weiland couldn't control his addictions.
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I'd argue four...obvi you're counting the first two. Which other do you count? Tiny Music, or No. 4?
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I always thought Tiny Music was deceptively great. Clearly not as regarded as the first two, but just "different". Much more of a groovy album.
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That's a good way to put it. It was different enough from the first two and while I was skeptical at first, it pulled me in and I really liked it.
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absolutely brilliant
if scotty wouldve kept to a manageable dosage, this band wouldve had some serious staying power
rip every singer theyve ever had
if scotty wouldve kept to a manageable dosage, this band wouldve had some serious staying power
rip every singer theyve ever had
i was hoping to see some gifs of people shitting
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True, but then we may have missed out on Velvet Revolver had Weiland held it together. VR and STP are in a class of their own as equals.
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I always thought shangra la de da was the gem everyone missed. Hell, many people never knew they even released it. Got some amazing tunes.
Robert deleo is an insane writer/bassist. Unsung bass hero.
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I probably didn’t give that one the listen it deserved. Hated the first release off it, and even though I have the disc, I never really gave it a fair shake. I should go back and listen.Moses Scurry wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:37 pmI always thought shangra la de da was the gem everyone missed. Hell, many people never knew they even released it. Got some amazing tunes.
Robert deleo is an insane writer/bassist. Unsung bass hero.
Yes, De Leo is good. So is his brother. Underrated musicians, I think.
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Decent. They aren't one of the mainstay Grunge bands that were the epitome of the era, but they were a decent band.
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Definitely one of the better grunge bands, but grunge was destined for a short run. No body wants to stay that depressed and gisgruntled for very long.
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They aren't really grunge IMO, they are 95% pop-rock. I think the first record pigeon holed them as grunge. Hell, they are from San Diego and weren't even part of the grunge scene. I think it's because he sounded like Eddie Vedder a bit one the first album.
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They weren't grunge but they weren't pop-rock either.
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This is a good comparison. Kind of the same way GnR was lumped in with the hair bands, even though they were closer to gritty rock and roll than the hair bands.
Maybe, the real discussion should be how many grunge bands were truly that, or just lumped in with them because of timing.
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STP was Alternative. Decent band that put out some good songs. Their MTV Unplugged album is really good.
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Lol. Totally forgot I made this thread. Went into a deep STP hole that night. I agree with most of what's been said here. The first two albums, to me are great rock and roll. Perhaps not great grunge, but great rock and roll. The Deleo brothers are highly underrated imo, and you get that sense from anyone who's ever tried to play their catalog or collaborated with them. Of course the drugs fucked over Scott, who was a modern day jagger in that his voice wasnt exactly breaking any ceilings, but he had that presence. Tiny music is an album much like"white pony" from the deftones for me in that it was a bit of a departure from what I expected and was so much of an evolution for a third album from the first that it took me a while to grasp it. Once I did, I did fall in love with though.
The rest is hit and miss for me, but 3 great albums puts them in rarefied space....
Fucking good band.
Btdubs.. theres hope for the future.
https://youtu.be/dGQlCrtfGik
The rest is hit and miss for me, but 3 great albums puts them in rarefied space....
Fucking good band.
Btdubs.. theres hope for the future.
https://youtu.be/dGQlCrtfGik
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I saw one of Weiland’s last shows with The Wildabouts shortly before his passing.
At one point he literally stood at the front of the stage yelling “Suckin’ On Chilidogs” for at least a minute straight.
It was pretty sad to see somebody in that state and he was dead less than six months later. My buddy and I were honestly surprised he lasted that long after what we saw.
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Scott Weiland's book "Not Dead, and Not For Sale" is a pretty good read for any reading music fans. Certainly not some cutting edge thing, but still a solid read.
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Wicked Garden, Sex Type Thing, Plush, Interstate Love Song, Dead and Bloated, Creep. Good stuff.
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Andy Granatelli would tell you that it's the Racer's Edge. but he's dead
Linda Vaughan looked pretty good in their T-shirts
Linda Vaughan looked pretty good in their T-shirts
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There's a live version of Crackerman on youtube that I came across from one of his last Wildabouts shows. Crackerman is one of my all time favorites, but Weiland was barely conscious during the song and was just going through the motions. It was really sad. Not surprisingly he was dead a short time later.-Jaymo- wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:29 amI saw one of Weiland’s last shows with The Wildabouts shortly before his passing.
At one point he literally stood at the front of the stage yelling “Suckin’ On Chilidogs” for at least a minute straight.
It was pretty sad to see somebody in that state and he was dead less than six months later. My buddy and I were honestly surprised he lasted that long after what we saw.
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This song tho...
I can't help but crank the volume to the max and put the hammer down once it kicks in