Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by thinktank » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:34 pm

bubu dubu. wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:12 pm
thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:35 pm
bubu dubu. wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:52 am
Grilled burger with a side of grilled vegetables... Healthy.
Depends on how often.

Do you know what a carcinogen is?
Nope, never heard of them.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by milquetoast » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:35 pm

Eroder wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:23 am
RC3 wrote:
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Pineapples are unhealthy if you stick it up your butt.
Are we talking a whole pineapple, or slices?
I think the whole pineapple .... butt inserted by the slice?
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by ESAD » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:00 pm

We started eating meat around 2-2.5 million years ago

Controlled fire is at a minimum 200,000 year ago

Broccoli came to the US in the early 1900’s

As far as meat being carcinogenic, it’s just not true. You are meat to someone else

The claims of carcinogenic compounds are equally present in and browned vegetables as with meat

Nutritional epidemiology is a joke at best
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Je9 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm

They are.

Too much fat - no good fat
Cancer link
Not a whole lot of other nutrients
Buns are garbage foot. Might as well eat a snickers

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Pastor Jason » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:13 pm

Je9 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm
They are.

Too much fat - no good fat
Cancer link
Not a whole lot of other nutrients
Buns are garbage foot. Might as well eat a snickers
Andreas Ruiz Jr ate a Snickers before knocking out Britain's Anthony Joshua to win the heavyweight boxing crown. Please don't disrespect Snickers or the champ.

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Je9 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:21 pm

Pastor Jason wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:13 pm
Je9 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm
They are.

Too much fat - no good fat
Cancer link
Not a whole lot of other nutrients
Buns are garbage foot. Might as well eat a snickers
Andreas Ruiz Jr ate a Snickers before knocking out Britain's Anthony Joshua to win the heavyweight boxing crown. Please don't disrespect Snickers or the champ.
The way I heard it is that he knocked him out despite eating a snickers bar

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Pastor Jason » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:30 pm

Je9 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:21 pm
Pastor Jason wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:13 pm
Je9 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm
They are.

Too much fat - no good fat
Cancer link
Not a whole lot of other nutrients
Buns are garbage foot. Might as well eat a snickers
Andreas Ruiz Jr ate a Snickers before knocking out Britain's Anthony Joshua to win the heavyweight boxing crown. Please don't disrespect Snickers or the champ.
The way I heard it is that he knocked him out despite eating a snickers bar
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Ask Not » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:33 pm

Lesueurcountyguy wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:54 pm
Pastor Jason wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:51 pm
During his time on this earth, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ fed thousands of people with only two fish and a loaf of bread. If you have questions regarding nutrition, look no further than the Old Testament.
What kind of fish? Was the bread Gluten free?
What Kind of dummy are you? God didn't invent gastro-intestinal issues until the 20th century. Read your dang Bible.

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Lesueurcountyguy » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:04 pm

Nancy Jr wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:33 pm
Lesueurcountyguy wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:54 pm
Pastor Jason wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:51 pm
During his time on this earth, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ fed thousands of people with only two fish and a loaf of bread. If you have questions regarding nutrition, look no further than the Old Testament.
What kind of fish? Was the bread Gluten free?
What Kind of dummy are you? God didn't invent gastro-intestinal issues until the 20th century. Read your dang Bible.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Moses Scurry » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:05 pm

Just had the Impossible burger, if you like Whoppers and are concerned about your fat ass, it should do the trick.

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by ESAD » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:10 pm

Too much fat is no worse than too many calories. Too much fat is better than too many carbohydrates.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Subarudrivingsnowflake » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:56 pm

RC3 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:09 am
flexbuffchest wrote:
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Most fast foods are still chock full of trans fats.
What did they used to be?
I think trans fats are outlawed.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled in 2015 that artificial trans fats were unsafe to eat and gave food-makers three years to eliminate them from the food supply, with a deadline of June 18, 2018.

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Subarudrivingsnowflake » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:03 pm

Fat is good for you. Your brain needs cholesterol. It’s not about eating too much meat either. The human body wastes excess cholesterol. Sugar or carbs cause inflammation of arteries which causes cholesterol to build up in arteries.

Focus on upping HDL and lowering LDL. Reduce sugar and carbs to 50g a day minimum and you’re Gucci.

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Subarudrivingsnowflake » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:07 pm

As far as meat causing cancer:

Reduce grilling well done

Use grass fed beef with no antibiotics. (Buy a 1/4 cow if possible)

Only eat bacon without nitrates

Stay away from processed meats.

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by flexbuffchest » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:12 pm

RC3 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:09 am
flexbuffchest wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:24 am
Most fast foods are still chock full of trans fats.
What did they used to be?
Not sure but trans fat is essentially the food version of a cigarette.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by flexbuffchest » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:16 pm

Subarudrivingsnowflake wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:56 pm
RC3 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:09 am
flexbuffchest wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:24 am
Most fast foods are still chock full of trans fats.
What did they used to be?
I think trans fats are outlawed.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled in 2015 that artificial trans fats were unsafe to eat and gave food-makers three years to eliminate them from the food supply, with a deadline of June 18, 2018.
Fast food still seems to be exempt...somehow. :shrug:

This is literally off their website:

http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritio ... tslist.pdf

Anything that says "partially hydrogenated" is trans fat. Bun, tortillas, grilled chicken breast (says they cook them with margarine, etc. Here it shows you how much per item.

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/abou ... lator.html

Burger King is the same deal.

https://www.bk.com/pdfs/nutrition.pdf


I have no idea why that 2018 ban didn't include this stuff but here we are. :shrug:
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Cobey » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:26 pm

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Grilling up some fresh carcinogens bros

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by thinktank » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:28 pm

Cobey wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:26 pm
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Grilling up some fresh carcinogens bros
Those burgers look like garbage. Definitely eating carcinogens, bro!
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by thinktank » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:35 pm

ESAD wrote:
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As far as meat being carcinogenic, it’s just not true. You are meat to someone else

The claims of carcinogenic compounds are equally present in and browned vegetables as with meat
Regarding the former: Carcinogens occur in different meats at different levels. It’s absolutely false that no meat is carcinogenic. You’re spreading fake news, as Je9 pointed out.

Your latter sentence is unintelligible.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Cobey » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:36 pm

thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:28 pm
Cobey wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:26 pm
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Grilling up some fresh carcinogens bros
Those burgers look like garbage.

Go big or go home.
They are. I have me a pregnant wife who's getting close to ready to pop. She decided about 20 minutes ago that she wanted burgers grilled ASAP. So I worked with what I could source quickly

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

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Woodja?



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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by nigel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:13 pm

Americans are funny. Burgers are unhealthy but a muffin and grande vanilla latte from Starbucks is ok. Lulz

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by ESAD » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 pm

thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:35 pm
ESAD wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:00 pm
As far as meat being carcinogenic, it’s just not true. You are meat to someone else

The claims of carcinogenic compounds are equally present in and browned vegetables as with meat
Regarding the former: Carcinogens occur in different meats at different levels. It’s absolutely false that no meat is carcinogenic. You’re spreading fake news, as Je9 pointed out.

Your latter sentence is unintelligible.
Bullshit. Prove it

I fully condone stinktank eating a plant based diet

Everyone else needs animal based nutrition
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by thinktank » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:38 pm

ESAD wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 pm
thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:35 pm
ESAD wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:00 pm
As far as meat being carcinogenic, it’s just not true. You are meat to someone else

The claims of carcinogenic compounds are equally present in and browned vegetables as with meat
Regarding the former: Carcinogens occur in different meats at different levels. It’s absolutely false that no meat is carcinogenic. You’re spreading fake news, as Je9 pointed out.

Your latter sentence is unintelligible.
Bullshit. Prove it

I fully condone stinktank eating a plant based diet

Everyone else needs animal based nutrition
I’m carnivorous, ya dingus.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritions ... -findings/
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by salamander » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:47 pm

What many people consider healthy is actually quite unhealthy. It astonished me that borderline anorexia is considered healthy by some people.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Qman65 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:21 am

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What's the "heart attack" ingredient?

Is beef unhealthy? No, so wtf is bad?

The bread? Yeah there's a little sugar in it but its not like a soda.

The tomato? Lettuce? Pickle?

Seriously I'm puzzled.
Processed cheese. That is why heart attack rates have gone up the last 30 years. You add processed cheese to your diet, guaranteed heart attack, real cheese is better for you.
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by ESAD » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:39 am

thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:38 pm
ESAD wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 pm
thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:35 pm


Regarding the former: Carcinogens occur in different meats at different levels. It’s absolutely false that no meat is carcinogenic. You’re spreading fake news, as Je9 pointed out.

Your latter sentence is unintelligible.
Bullshit. Prove it

I fully condone stinktank eating a plant based diet

Everyone else needs animal based nutrition
I’m carnivorous, ya dingus.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritions ... -findings/
Harvard has long been known to be a propaganda pusher. Probably carcinogenic? It is or it isn’t. And I want to see Grilled asparagus ran through the same ringer. I’d throw a handful of counter points but Abe’s site is banned on my work computer and the phone sux
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by thinktank » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:46 am

ESAD wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:39 am
thinktank wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:38 pm
ESAD wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 pm


Bullshit. Prove it

I fully condone stinktank eating a plant based diet

Everyone else needs animal based nutrition
I’m carnivorous, ya dingus.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritions ... -findings/
Harvard has long been known to be a propaganda pusher. Probably carcinogenic? It is or it isn’t. And I want to see Grilled asparagus ran through the same ringer. I’d throw a handful of counter points but Abe’s site is banned on my work computer and the phone sux
The study and article are clear.

You “probably” shouldn’t be telling people how to eat. Let’s be honest.

Anyway:

“Some reports in the media, particularly those from the meat industry, promote red meat consumption as part of a healthy and balanced diet. Is this true?

While it is true that red meat has nutritional value – it is rich in protein, minerals and vitamins (e.g., vitamin B12) – many studies have also shown that high consumption of red meat can increase the risk of colorectal cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic diseases, and may lead to higher risk of dying of those diseases (when compared to other good sources of protein, such as poultry, fish or legumes). Thus, much evidence suggests that an optimally healthy diet would be low in red meat.”

And by the way, that’s not all:

“It is well known that besides increasing the risk of some cancers, high red and processed meat intake can also increase risk of other chronic and potentially life threatening diseases such as coronary heart disease, stroke and type II diabetes compared to other protein sources such as poultry, legumes and fish.”
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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Slap Shot » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:31 am

Eroder wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:50 am
Why can't people just accept the fact that you can eat pretty much anything you want, as long as it's in moderation.
Possibly because life expectancy in the US used to be fairly high compared with other first world countries and for some time now that's no longer been the case? I get it that no one wants to be preached to but the underlying point is Americans have become fat and lazy and are not as healthy as they should be given the wealth. With health care costs so high and no signs of proper reform in sight maybe people there should start taking better care of themselves?

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Re: Why are hamburgers considered unhealthy?

Post by Eroder » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:35 am

Slap Shot wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:31 am
Eroder wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:50 am
Why can't people just accept the fact that you can eat pretty much anything you want, as long as it's in moderation.
Possibly because life expectancy in the US used to be fairly high compared with other first world countries and for some time now that's no longer been the case? I get it that no one wants to be preached to but the underlying point is Americans have become fat and lazy and are not as healthy as they should be given the wealth. With health care costs so high and no signs of proper reform in sight maybe people there should start taking better care of themselves?
I guess it comes down to what a person wants out of life.

Granted, being an obese slob is part of what I'm saying, but it really comes down to 2 choices:

1) Squeeze every possible second out of your life expectancy by doing everything possible that you understand is healthy & good for you

or

2) Enjoy life at your own terms even if it means you may last a year or 2 less.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Asshole. Fuck you.

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