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Opinions on Gopher football this fall?

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Seems like there just hasnt been much buzz in general. The way last year ended on a high note, I guess I am surprised there isnt more optimism and talk on our rodents? Thoughts?

Feek, you seem to have connections to the program - whats the inside scoop?
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8 wins .. that should be the goal!

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Do you have to ask?

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I've got opinions... it's going to be the same shit as the last 5+ decades of goopher foolball.
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9 Wins should be the goal
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Looking forward to Brooks and Smith coming back.
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Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesterday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
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feekdogg wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesyerday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
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Like many, I was also thinking 8 wins. However, where the Gophers are right now, its not just about the wins. Could have 6 or 7 wins, but if one or two of those are against Wisconsin or Iowa, then I wouldnt be disappointed in 6 or 7 wins. Making these rivalry games relevant is important in bringing interest back.
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It'd be really swell if they could put it all together and win the West. Nebraska fans are convinced it's about to be the mid 90s all over again. Beat them and nip that in the bud right now.
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Cautiously optimistic. The WR's should be great, hopefully the QB's can take the step forward to utilize them. The RB's will be flat out ridiculous. The mammoth OL is a year older and hopefully better. The offense should be fun. The defense made incredible strides after the DC switch last year, let's hope that continues.
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This team can win more than 8 games if one of the quarterbacks steps up and is above average.

We all know the offense is pretty loaded, but I'm also liking the defense this season. Coughlin, Barber, and Martin are all proven, experienced guys. You also have the Notre Dame transfer at DT, Mica Dew-Treadway and the really talented JUCO DT, Keonte Schad who had offers from Oklahoma, Tennessee, Mississippi State, etc. Add in the super talented sophmore cornerback Terell Smith and a healthy Antoine Winfield Jr. and you have a pretty talented defense.
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feekdogg wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesterday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
Feek,

Good stuff. Was hoping you would weigh in. Love your takes on Gopher football.

Let me ask you this - what's the deal at QB? Is it both have disappointed? They aren't progressing as expected? Not grasping off? Here is my point - when is the last time we have had what appears to be a GOOD OL and elite backs? Probably all the way back to MB/Maroney? The HUGE difference being, now ask when we have had that and above avg or maybe better than that WR corps???

Which bring me to my main point - how the F can we not be getting quality QB given those facts???? Are both just not good enough plain and simple or what? I would think even Demry Croft could have ascended to average with this supporting cast.
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hategreenticemase wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:05 pm
feekdogg wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesterday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
Feek,

Good stuff. Was hoping you would weigh in. Love your takes on Gopher football.

Let me ask you this - what's the deal at QB? Is it both have disappointed? They aren't progressing as expected? Not grasping off? Here is my point - when is the last time we have had what appears to be a GOOD OL and elite backs? Probably all the way back to MB/Maroney? The HUGE difference being, now ask when we have had that and above avg or maybe better than that WR corps???

Which bring me to my main point - how the F can we not be getting quality QB given those facts???? Are both just not good enough plain and simple or what? I would think even Demry Croft could have ascended to average with this supporting cast.
Exactly right, Tice.

Demry is better than what we have now.

Pretty good read here.

I really look forward to what he will do in Brother Reeds offense that is setup for athletes to "Excel" in.

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hategreenticemase wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:05 pm
feekdogg wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesterday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
Feek,

Good stuff. Was hoping you would weigh in. Love your takes on Gopher football.

Let me ask you this - what's the deal at QB? Is it both have disappointed? They aren't progressing as expected? Not grasping off? Here is my point - when is the last time we have had what appears to be a GOOD OL and elite backs? Probably all the way back to MB/Maroney? The HUGE difference being, now ask when we have had that and above avg or maybe better than that WR corps???

Which bring me to my main point - how the F can we not be getting quality QB given those facts???? Are both just not good enough plain and simple or what? I would think even Demry Croft could have ascended to average with this supporting cast.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying QB play or talent was an issue. They have 2 very capable Big 10 starters right now (the kid from Texas has a better arm than both of them, but that's something to look at next year). The old saying in college football is that if you have 2 QBs, you have 0 QBs. Fleck has stated that he wants someone to grab the bull by the horns and wrestle the starting job away from the other guy. That hasn't happened yet. It's not that one both guys aren't capable. They're both good, but it's too close to say one guy is head and shoulders above.

The case for Morgan is he's a little older, more mobile and more composed under pressure. Plus, he was under center when they got rolling at the end of last year.

The case for Annexstad is that he showed a lot of poise as a true freshman, throws a much better deep ball and is more of a natural leader. People kind of forget that he played hurt last year, and that really affected his mobility.

I honestly have no idea what's going to happen. If it's too close to call, I'd hand the job to Morgan to start. Another thing to keep in mind is that Annexstad can still technically redshirt this year, which would mean he's a redshirt soph. next year, giving the QB position better balance in classes.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:13 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:05 pm
feekdogg wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesterday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
Feek,

Good stuff. Was hoping you would weigh in. Love your takes on Gopher football.

Let me ask you this - what's the deal at QB? Is it both have disappointed? They aren't progressing as expected? Not grasping off? Here is my point - when is the last time we have had what appears to be a GOOD OL and elite backs? Probably all the way back to MB/Maroney? The HUGE difference being, now ask when we have had that and above avg or maybe better than that WR corps???

Which bring me to my main point - how the F can we not be getting quality QB given those facts???? Are both just not good enough plain and simple or what? I would think even Demry Croft could have ascended to average with this supporting cast.
Exactly right, Tice.

Demry is better than what we have now.

Pretty good read here.

I really look forward to what he will do in Brother Reeds offense that is setup for athletes to "Excel" in.

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feekdogg wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:33 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:05 pm
feekdogg wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm Anything less than 8 wins is a total failure. If you don't build on the momentum that the team had at the end of last year, that becomes pointless. The schedule is never going to be as friendly as it is this year.
Biggest problems I see are the questions about depth in the LBs and the QB battle right now. Fleck would like to name a starter yesterday, but no one is separating themselves. OL is going to be rock solid and that's going to make things easier on whoever wins the QB job.
Feek,

Good stuff. Was hoping you would weigh in. Love your takes on Gopher football.

Let me ask you this - what's the deal at QB? Is it both have disappointed? They aren't progressing as expected? Not grasping off? Here is my point - when is the last time we have had what appears to be a GOOD OL and elite backs? Probably all the way back to MB/Maroney? The HUGE difference being, now ask when we have had that and above avg or maybe better than that WR corps???

Which bring me to my main point - how the F can we not be getting quality QB given those facts???? Are both just not good enough plain and simple or what? I would think even Demry Croft could have ascended to average with this supporting cast.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying QB play or talent was an issue. They have 2 very capable Big 10 starters right now (the kid from Texas has a better arm than both of them, but that's something to look at next year). The old saying in college football is that if you have 2 QBs, you have 0 QBs. Fleck has stated that he wants someone to grab the bull by the horns and wrestle the starting job away from the other guy. That hasn't happened yet. It's not that one both guys aren't capable. They're both good, but it's too close to say one guy is head and shoulders above.

The case for Morgan is he's a little older, more mobile and more composed under pressure. Plus, he was under center when they got rolling at the end of last year.

The case for Annexstad is that he showed a lot of poise as a true freshman, throws a much better deep ball and is more of a natural leader. People kind of forget that he played hurt last year, and that really affected his mobility.

I honestly have no idea what's going to happen. If it's too close to call, I'd hand the job to Morgan to start. Another thing to keep in mind is that Annexstad can still technically redshirt this year, which would mean he's a redshirt soph. next year, giving the QB position better balance in classes.
Great stuff, Feek. Thanks for clarifying. Totally get what you are saying now. So, it would appear you are thinking this may be the best offense we have had in a long time?
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Offense has as much depth and talent as any team in the West. The defense is a big question. Not as deep on that side of the ball.
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Getting two very good RBs back to add to the kid should be huge if at least 2/3 can stay healthy.

I'm not at all convinced you can't win with 2 QBs but I agree the preferred outcome is that one outshines enough to lock down 90% of the snaps.

The defense improved a lot after they canned the DC and while I am not dialed in enough to say much about the depth on D, they do return 8 starters and 17 overall. No other team that will contend in the West returns more than 14.
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the little spaz of a coach seems pretty quiet compared to his arrival.
as always with gopher football, if the expectations are high, they will fail.
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QB position seems to have resolved itself for the time being
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feekdogg wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:28 pm QB position seems to have resolved itself for the time being
Dude, really? Don't do the tease bs here! Whattya got?
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hategreenticemase wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:22 pm
feekdogg wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:28 pm QB position seems to have resolved itself for the time being
Dude, really? Don't do the tease bs here! Whattya got?
Wasn't trying to. Thought people would have seen/heard it elsewhere.
Annexstad had a non-contact injury where he felt a pop in his foot. He's out indefinitely, but it sounds like it's a season ender.
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feekdogg wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:26 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:22 pm
feekdogg wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:28 pm QB position seems to have resolved itself for the time being
Dude, really? Don't do the tease bs here! Whattya got?
Wasn't trying to. Thought people would have seen/heard it elsewhere.
Annexstad had a non-contact injury where he felt a pop in his foot. He's out indefinitely, but it sounds like it's a season ender.
Yeah, my bad. Just saw the crawl. That's too bad. Assume he will redshirt?
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hategreenticemase wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:17 pm
feekdogg wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:26 pm
hategreenticemase wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:22 pm

Dude, really? Don't do the tease bs here! Whattya got?
Wasn't trying to. Thought people would have seen/heard it elsewhere.
Annexstad had a non-contact injury where he felt a pop in his foot. He's out indefinitely, but it sounds like it's a season ender.
Yeah, my bad. Just saw the crawl. That's too bad. Assume he will redshirt?
He can redshirt even if he comes back for the last what, 3 or 4 games? He will definitely redshirt. He could have used a redshirt year last year too but now he'll get it. Guess we'll see how Morgan and maybe Clark can handle things.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:36 am
hategreenticemase wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:17 pm
feekdogg wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:26 pm

Wasn't trying to. Thought people would have seen/heard it elsewhere.
Annexstad had a non-contact injury where he felt a pop in his foot. He's out indefinitely, but it sounds like it's a season ender.
Yeah, my bad. Just saw the crawl. That's too bad. Assume he will redshirt?
He can redshirt even if he comes back for the last what, 3 or 4 games? He will definitely redshirt. He could have used a redshirt year last year too but now he'll get it. Guess we'll see how Morgan and maybe Clark can handle things.
I forgot about the new redshirt rules, good point.

Starting to get mildly excited for this team.
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I listened to Ryan Burns on with JG over the weekend -- sure sounds like Annexstad will miss the season. He thinks Clark will be the backup to Morgan but Clark/Kramer are fairly close in terms of being ready right now. He mentioned Annexstad and Morgan getting a majority of the snaps in spring ball and that didn't do any favors for the true freshmen.

Sounds like the O Line is set from LG through RT. LT is up for debate -- I'm wondering why not put Faalele over there? Tons of weapons offensively. Enough ball to go around?

Missed him talking about D Line but optimistic on the back 7 at least.
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Same old Gopher season.

Do well against inferior opponents. Can't win against quality teams. We get one decent size win and a 4th tier Bowl win and all the Nadine Babu's call it the greatest season since the Rose Bowl season in the 50's.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:34 pm I listened to Ryan Burns on with JG over the weekend -- sure sounds like Annexstad will miss the season. He thinks Clark will be the backup to Morgan but Clark/Kramer are fairly close in terms of being ready right now. He mentioned Annexstad and Morgan getting a majority of the snaps in spring ball and that didn't do any favors for the true freshmen.

Sounds like the O Line is set from LG through RT. LT is up for debate -- I'm wondering why not put Faalele over there? Tons of weapons offensively. Enough ball to go around?

Missed him talking about D Line but optimistic on the back 7 at least.
Really not a big loss on the QB imo.

It's like losing Christian Ponder and going to Josh Freeman.

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