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MLB trade discussion.......Its on!

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feekdogg wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:01 am
A Kickass Offense wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:27 pm
feekdogg wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:21 pm

The only team left that makes any sense is LA. I think he's going to stay here.
I'm honestly not sure how much LA would even want him, they've got 4-5 guys that can play multiple infield positions and for the most part, they can all hit as well.
I know, but there's nobody else that makes any sense, unless an AL team would want him to DH. They either asked too much or they stupidly held out until the market fizzled out.
I would think at this point with hours remaining until the deadline, the FO would trade Dozier for a bag of balls. I'd swoop him up if I were a contender to at least use him as a pinch hitter or something. Nothing wrong with more depth going into the playoffs.
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Style wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:20 am
feekdogg wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:01 am
A Kickass Offense wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:27 pm

I'm honestly not sure how much LA would even want him, they've got 4-5 guys that can play multiple infield positions and for the most part, they can all hit as well.
I know, but there's nobody else that makes any sense, unless an AL team would want him to DH. They either asked too much or they stupidly held out until the market fizzled out.
I would think at this point with hours remaining until the deadline, the FO would trade Dozier for a bag of balls. I'd swoop him up if I were a contender to at least use him as a pinch hitter or something. Nothing wrong with more depth going into the playoffs.
Wouldn't he receive a qualifying offer after the season? If so, you'd get a 2nd rounder at worst when another team signs him. That would be better than a 2nd tier prospect.
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Ask Not wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:12 pm
Style wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:20 am
feekdogg wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:01 am

I know, but there's nobody else that makes any sense, unless an AL team would want him to DH. They either asked too much or they stupidly held out until the market fizzled out.
I would think at this point with hours remaining until the deadline, the FO would trade Dozier for a bag of balls. I'd swoop him up if I were a contender to at least use him as a pinch hitter or something. Nothing wrong with more depth going into the playoffs.
Wouldn't he receive a qualifying offer after the season? If so, you'd get a 2nd rounder at worst when another team signs him. That would be better than a 2nd tier prospect.
From my understanding, and by no means am I an expert at this, but the QO for Dozier would be something like $17.1M for next season. With the way his value is plummeting, he'd likely sign that deal. Therefore we wouldn't get a pick and we'd have him back next season at that price.
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Logan Forsythe is in the deal just to balance payrolls. Dodgers traded Jose De Leon for Forsythe after Twins turned that down for Dozier two years ago.

Twins' real return is RHP Devin Smeltzer and OF/1B Luke Raley. Both are C-level prospects.

Twins got more for Eduardo Escobar.
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Drizzay wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:33 pm @AaronGleeman
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Logan Forsythe is in the deal just to balance payrolls. Dodgers traded Jose De Leon for Forsythe after Twins turned that down for Dozier two years ago.

Twins' real return is RHP Devin Smeltzer and OF/1B Luke Raley. Both are C-level prospects.

Twins got more for Eduardo Escobar.
As they should have. Escobar is the better player right now.
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Drizzay wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:33 pm @AaronGleeman
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Logan Forsythe is in the deal just to balance payrolls. Dodgers traded Jose De Leon for Forsythe after Twins turned that down for Dozier two years ago.

Twins' real return is RHP Devin Smeltzer and OF/1B Luke Raley. Both are C-level prospects.

Twins got more for Eduardo Escobar.
Lol. They had to dump him though. At least Dozier will get a taste of a winning organization.
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Drizzay wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:33 pm @AaronGleeman
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Logan Forsythe is in the deal just to balance payrolls. Dodgers traded Jose De Leon for Forsythe after Twins turned that down for Dozier two years ago.

Twins' real return is RHP Devin Smeltzer and OF/1B Luke Raley. Both are C-level prospects.

Twins got more for Eduardo Escobar.
I'd take De Leon (tommy john and all) over that at this point. Raley looks like he has some pop I guess.
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Style wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:01 pm
Nancy wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:12 pm
Style wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:20 am

I would think at this point with hours remaining until the deadline, the FO would trade Dozier for a bag of balls. I'd swoop him up if I were a contender to at least use him as a pinch hitter or something. Nothing wrong with more depth going into the playoffs.
Wouldn't he receive a qualifying offer after the season? If so, you'd get a 2nd rounder at worst when another team signs him. That would be better than a 2nd tier prospect.
From my understanding, and by no means am I an expert at this, but the QO for Dozier would be something like $17.1M for next season. With the way his value is plummeting, he'd likely sign that deal. Therefore we wouldn't get a pick and we'd have him back next season at that price.
You are correct..
Nobody else seems to understand this.

The Twins would've been stuck paying him a figure that would make him in 2019 the 2nd highest paid 2nd baseman in MLB...no draft pick, just an absurd contract.

If teams were that interested in him, they would've gotten more in the trade.
They pulled the trigger right at the end...nobody wanted him except the Dodgers.
Why would there suddenly be a clamor for him in the off-season?

I think posters don't understand the "qualifying offer" and how high that $ number is.

(And also the FAs available this off-season...Dozier is far from a "premier" player in the mix)
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I guess nobody wanted Rodney...
Tons of BP players moving, obviously no real offer.

:thinking:
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Pretty impressive the Pirates landed Archer.
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ForCaleb wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:53 pm Pretty impressive the Pirates landed Archer.
They did give up a lot for him though..

I like the attitude though of making the deal.
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jakazz30 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:57 pm
ForCaleb wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:53 pm Pretty impressive the Pirates landed Archer.
They did give up a lot for him though..

I like the attitude though of making the deal.
Risky for sure..... especially with how many teams in the NL playoff hunt (i think 6 teams within 4 games of the WC).
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ForCaleb wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:00 pm
jakazz30 wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:57 pm
ForCaleb wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:53 pm Pretty impressive the Pirates landed Archer.
They did give up a lot for him though..

I like the attitude though of making the deal.
Risky for sure..... especially with how many teams in the NL playoff hunt (i think 6 teams within 4 games of the WC).
Yeah, but that risk is off-set a little by him being cost controlled for the next 3 years.

Glasnow is not looking like the stud that he was supposed to be. Meadows is the real deal. But you have to pay up if you want to be a contender for a guy sometimes.
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Interesting thing today.....the Yankees send Sonny Gray to the BP, (who a lot of froobs were clamoring for) and his replacement in the rotation? Lance Lynn.
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jakazz30 wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:55 pm Interesting thing today.....the Yankees send Sonny Gray to the BP, (who a lot of froobs were clamoring for) and his replacement in the rotation? Lance Lynn.
Is he still cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs?

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Interesting stats from the 4 former Twins going to their new teams even if it is a small sample size. Dozier is batting 400 with slugging of 1.000. Escobar is still a doubles machine with 4 in 10 games and I think had a hit in 9 of those 10 with about half being multi-hit games. Pressley has given up 1 ER in about 5 innings and Lynn has pitched 12 scoreless innings for the Yanks. I know small sample size but it does make you wonder where that's been all year.
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Jimtown guy wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:21 pm Interesting stats from the 4 former Twins going to their new teams even if it is a small sample size. Dozier is batting 400 with slugging of 1.000. Escobar is still a doubles machine with 4 in 10 games and I think had a hit in 9 of those 10 with about half being multi-hit games. Pressley has given up 1 ER in about 5 innings and Lynn has pitched 12 scoreless innings for the Yanks. I know small sample size but it does make you wonder where that's been all year.
Fair question Jimmy...
as I've said b4, if they played like that......they would still be Twins, and the organization would've probably added players.
(Dozier and Lynn being the main focus....Pressley and Escobar were fine while here)
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Dozier 0-4 last night, i'm sure it will normalize over time. Still think that the Twins could have got more for Brian.
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I'm sure its disheartening to know that you are playing on a team that cannot develope players.

And they wont make the moves necessary to overcome the poor developement.
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full force five wrote: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:23 am Dozier 0-4 last night, i'm sure it will normalize over time. Still think that the Twins could have got more for Brian.
A 1/2 hour b4 the trade deadline.......
the only team even sniffing at Dozier was the Dodgers...
(And that is consistent, no other team really ever tried to get him over multiple trade deadlines)

Maybe Twins froobs no more then basically every team in MLB?

Nobody else wanted him.

When Escobar left, the players talked about the loss...great guy, teammate, etc.....
Where have those comments come about Dozier?

:thinking:

Hell...how has Forsythe done since the trade?
Better then Dozier did.
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The Oakland Athletics have acquired closer Fernando Rodney from the Minnesota Twins in exchange for minor league righty Dakota Chalmers, the team announced Thursday.
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Anyone still pushing the idea the Twins should've kept Dozier and given him a qualifying offer?

He actually did worse in LA than here....(benched even for game 163)

Plus think about what it would've cost.

Report: MLB sets qualifying offer at $17.9 million
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1620937
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Bring him back stat.
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twitter.com/search/sonny+gray
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Cashman says he’ll be seeking a trade for Gray, for his sake and the sake of the Yankees. So, on a day when Cashman was pretty guarded about offseason, he was clear on Sonny Gray. If he finds a trade for him, he’s getting moved out of here.
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Corre Ricky Corre wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:15 pm twitter.com/search/sonny+gray
Marc Carig
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Cashman says he’ll be seeking a trade for Gray, for his sake and the sake of the Yankees. So, on a day when Cashman was pretty guarded about offseason, he was clear on Sonny Gray. If he finds a trade for him, he’s getting moved out of here.
Man he was so good out of the gate with the Oakland.

Wouldnt cost much.

Blew it with not trading for Gerrit Cole when he was dirt cheap. Big time.
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mglviks wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:44 pm
Corre Ricky Corre wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:15 pm twitter.com/search/sonny+gray
Marc Carig
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Cashman says he’ll be seeking a trade for Gray, for his sake and the sake of the Yankees. So, on a day when Cashman was pretty guarded about offseason, he was clear on Sonny Gray. If he finds a trade for him, he’s getting moved out of here.
Man he was so good out of the gate with the Oakland.

Wouldnt cost much.

Blew it with not trading for Gerrit Cole when he was dirt cheap. Big time.
Gray is definitely worth a shot if we can get him for cheap.
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flexbuffchest wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:24 pm
mglviks wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:44 pm
Corre Ricky Corre wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:15 pm twitter.com/search/sonny+gray
Marc Carig
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Cashman says he’ll be seeking a trade for Gray, for his sake and the sake of the Yankees. So, on a day when Cashman was pretty guarded about offseason, he was clear on Sonny Gray. If he finds a trade for him, he’s getting moved out of here.
Man he was so good out of the gate with the Oakland.

Wouldnt cost much.

Blew it with not trading for Gerrit Cole when he was dirt cheap. Big time.
Gray is definitely worth a shot if we can get him for cheap.
Agree
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