Berrios Rips Cheap Twins!

[Sid Hartman]

Get your popcorn ready! Pohlads will always have an excuse, guarantee they don’t make a trade at deadline and give excuse that price was too expensive

RT @JOLaMaKina: They just want to get money ... I wish you the best my man! Let’s get it

[DC4MVP]

Falvine: Jim, we're going to trade some prospects for pitching help.

Jim Pohlad: Nah, just trade them for cash.

Falvine: But they're decent prospects and we're only trading them for pitching down the stretch.

Jim: Yeah no. I just want the money.

[RubeTube]

This organization is Mickey Mouse as fawk.

Doesn't matter anyway. The Indians are chipping away while the Twins wilt away.

[bubu dubu.]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

[Sidewinder2k2]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

Spot on. If this turns into nothing, they will lose their fans, some maybe for good.

Santana ripped the Twins for trading his buddy Castillo when they were 8 or 9 games back. That was his own personal bias. Realistically, they should have traded both Santana and Hunter too, especially since Carl was still in charge (as bad as Jim might be, Carl was 100 times worse). All of the magic from 06' was gone by July of 07'.

Dozier cocked off about the team selling more because of his own personal contract that he didn't get than it was about the team itself. He was bitching in Spring Training that year. The team has since been proven right to not extend him.

That being said, if this ownership does not take action to help the here and now, they will be forever ripped shy of actually winning it all without making a move.

[bubu dubu.]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

Spot on. If this turns into nothing, they will lose their fans, some maybe for good.

Santana ripped the Twins for trading his buddy Castillo when they were 8 or 9 games back. That was his own personal bias. Realistically, they should have traded both Santana and Hunter too, especially since Carl was still in charge (as bad as Jim might be, Carl was 100 times worse). All of the magic from 06' was gone by July of 07'.

Dozier cocked off about the team selling more because of his own personal contract that he didn't get than it was about the team itself. He was bitching in Spring Training that year. The team has since been proven right to not extend him.

That being said, if this ownership does not take action to help the here and now, they will be forever ripped shy of actually winning it all without making a move.

Santana's complaint was right. Maybe the Castillo trade pushed him over the edge to make the claim, but he was right in saying that ownership is always looking to the future, and that if they continue to do that, some of the guys arent going to want to be part of the future here.

[A Kickass Offense]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

I still think they could get off the hook.

This team is playing so badly they'll be able to get away with saying that they didn't feel like this team was good enough even with help to have any postseason success.

[Sidewinder2k2]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

Spot on. If this turns into nothing, they will lose their fans, some maybe for good.

Santana ripped the Twins for trading his buddy Castillo when they were 8 or 9 games back. That was his own personal bias. Realistically, they should have traded both Santana and Hunter too, especially since Carl was still in charge (as bad as Jim might be, Carl was 100 times worse). All of the magic from 06' was gone by July of 07'.

Dozier cocked off about the team selling more because of his own personal contract that he didn't get than it was about the team itself. He was bitching in Spring Training that year. The team has since been proven right to not extend him.

That being said, if this ownership does not take action to help the here and now, they will be forever ripped shy of actually winning it all without making a move.

Santana's complaint was right. Maybe the Castillo trade pushed him over the edge to make the claim, but he was right in saying that ownership is always looking to the future, and that if they continue to do that, some of the guys arent going to want to be part of the future here.

In general, you are correct.

But the 07' Twins weren't getting career years from guys like Punto and Bartlett like the 06' Twins were. That team should have been in full sell mode (trade Santana and Hunter, this isn't hindsight, I said it at the time). They went half way and should be ripped for that as much as the years that they didn't buy.

By the way, Santana broke down fairly quickly after he was traded. I think he had 2 stud years and then collapsed.

Not trading for Soriano in 06' was rippable. Not trading for Lee in 10' was rippable. Not making a move this year will be a reason to absolutely destroy them.

[Sid Hartman]

When does Jose tweet again...they just traded another pitcher for cash lol

[Hummdrum]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one.

I was just remembering that. Torii Hunter spouted off too. The team is not hitting in the clutch situations, wasting decent pitching/bullpen performances, making mistakes, errors and baserunning, a lot of narrow losses.
Now you stir in players getting angry at ownership and it can really sour a squad to the point where if bad enough they kind of give up. Hopefully it won't have a ripple effect throughout the team. I hope they improve the team but they have to get out of this slump either way.

[Southpaw23]

The Buxton thing was just good management.

[Bon Scott]

May should be traded for Cy Young’s bones.

[RubeTube]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

I still think they could get off the hook.

This team is playing so badly they'll be able to get away with saying that they didn't feel like this team was good enough even with help to have any postseason success.

They will always be let of the hook by the protectors.

Its funny hearing the "If they don't do something this time" talk. They have been garbage owners since day one. One season of making a big move isn't going to make me forgive or forget how big of a rip off they are. It will make me eat crow for a season though.

[Small Hands]

Johan Santana made public comments about ownership being cheap too. I also want to say Dozier did, but not quite certain on that one. There was the Buxton thing last year as well, where he was sent to the minors to retain some of his eligibility, and Buxton refused to play the games.

To put some context into these moves though...what were they going to get for Morin other than cash? Dozier's frustration came from that year they got to play the play in game...as a player, its probably frustrating to not get help, but that team wasn't going anywhere with or without moves. The Buxton thing also, is a move that numerous teams do.

Still you got players voicing and showing disapproval.

This is the penultimate season for Jim. If no moves, or a small move is made, theres no excuses for the people that have been defending ownership...if a big move is made, then it will say a lot about ownership's desire to have a winning franchise...I don't expect that to happen though, but will gladly be wrong.

I still think they could get off the hook.

This team is playing so badly they'll be able to get away with saying that they didn't feel like this team was good enough even with help to have any postseason success.

This is exactly what they'll say.

[salamander]

One season of making a big move isn't going to make me forgive or forget how big of a rip off they are. It will make me eat crow for a season though.

If it was still Carl Pohlad, I'd agree with you. Right now Jim has a chance to prove to the fan base that he is not the owner his father was. He's talked a big game but has yet to follow through. This season will solidify most fans opinion of the Pohlad brothers' ownership and Jim as the guy running the Twins.

[full force five]

Carl Pohlad purchased the Twins back in 1984 for 44 million. The Twins are now worth 1.2 billion.

This is a business, that is it. The Pohlads are going to piss away this opportunity to go far in October with crap pitching.

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