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When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
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When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Is the answer "never"?
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Sadly, you think like a Pohlad and this answer is why the Pohlad's are the worst owners in all of sports.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Has any Pohlad ever gone "all in" since 1986?
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Why a plural?
Jim is the guy...
(As you continue this, why do you think I called you a "troll" in the brackets?)
Jim is the guy...
(As you continue this, why do you think I called you a "troll" in the brackets?)
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
That would be the Wilf's.salamander wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:04 pmSadly, you think like a Pohlad and this answer is why the Pohlad's are the worst owners in all of sports.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Wilf's hands down the worst. Worse than Glen Taylor and that's almost impossible.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
And another dumbass responseTommy_Hawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:09 pmJPM wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:46 pmThat would be the Wilf's.salamander wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:04 pm
Sadly, you think like a Pohlad and this answer is why the Pohlad's are the worst owners in all of sports.
Finally, a glimpse of the past CG
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Goldtard still loves the queenies
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Describe what "all in" is to you? Are you going to pay Kimbrel or Kuechel what they want? Seems like all 30 teams have said no to their price.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
oksalamander wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:04 pmSadly, you think like a Pohlad and this answer is why the Pohlad's are the worst owners in all of sports.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Carl then Jim. (Said it before)
Because you're upset that I'm vocalizing how sick I am of decade after decade after decade of basement dweller spending?
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
I'll tell you what's not going all in, spending below league average.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:19 amDescribe what "all in" is to you? Are you going to pay Kimbrel or Kuechel what they want? Seems like all 30 teams have said no to their price.
They got a publically funded stadium. They lose all rights to the "are you going to pay..." response after that. Every owner does.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
They signed Polanco and Kepler to long term deals before the season. Those were smart baseball decisions. Again, what are you going to do?salamander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:58 amI'll tell you what's not going all in, spending below league average.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:19 amDescribe what "all in" is to you? Are you going to pay Kimbrel or Kuechel what they want? Seems like all 30 teams have said no to their price.
They got a publically funded stadium. They lose all rights to the "are you going to pay..." response after that. Every owner does.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Those are smart baseball decisions. I like what this new regime has done and I've said that already. Could you imagine what this new regime could do with an owner willing to try and win?The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:02 amThey signed Polanco and Kepler to long term deals before the season. Those were smart baseball decisions. Again, what are you going to do?salamander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:58 amI'll tell you what's not going all in, spending below league average.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:19 am
Describe what "all in" is to you? Are you going to pay Kimbrel or Kuechel what they want? Seems like all 30 teams have said no to their price.
They got a publically funded stadium. They lose all rights to the "are you going to pay..." response after that. Every owner does.
What I want is for this team, at a minimum, is an attempt to make a run. When this team has been in position to make a run, it deals off it's own players and goes into bottom third in spending. Can we go into top third in spending during those times and make a run? Then we can go back into bottom third in spending while we rebuild.
What I want is ebb and flow of spending that mirrors where we're at as a team and an organization. We have never done that. Ever. Even after they promised they would after getting over 600 million in public funding for a new stadium.
What they can do right now is sign bullpen. There's two right now that are good to great players.
Now that the Pohlads (Carl and Jim) have been doing this for decades, now I want them to be the #1 spending team because that's just as laughable as the multiple decades of basement dweller spending we've gone through.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Where do you see those numbers?salamander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:16 amThose are smart baseball decisions. I like what this new regime has done and I've said that already. Could you imagine what this new regime could do with an owner willing to try and win?The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:02 amThey signed Polanco and Kepler to long term deals before the season. Those were smart baseball decisions. Again, what are you going to do?salamander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:58 am
I'll tell you what's not going all in, spending below league average.
They got a publically funded stadium. They lose all rights to the "are you going to pay..." response after that. Every owner does.
What I want is for this team, at a minimum, is an attempt to make a run. When this team has been in position to make a run, it deals off it's own players and goes into bottom third in spending. Can we go into top third in spending during those times and make a run? Then we can go back into bottom third in spending while we rebuild.
What I want is ebb and flow of spending that mirrors where we're at as a team and an organization. We have never done that. Ever. Even after they promised they would after getting over 600 million in public funding for a new stadium.
What they can do right now is sign bullpen. There's two right now that are good to great players.
Now that the Pohlads (Carl and Jim) have been doing this for decades, now I want them to be the #1 spending team because that's just as laughable as the multiple decades of basement dweller spending we've gone through.
Bottom line....Hennepin County contributed $350M into the project.....
The Twins have paid for everything else.
If you don't live in Hennepin County, you haven't paid 1 penny towards the ballpark.
Troll.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
After interest it's been about $650 mil. It was in the Star Tribune awhile back.
Sorry that you're so angry at me for wanting good owners. You can call me a troll all you want, you'd be wrong though.
All I want is good ownership. Hell, I'd even take average ownership at this point.
What you're seeing now a fan who's built up 3 decades of watching Twins ownership suck and is sick of it.
Stop acting like a petulant child who's offended because someone else has a different opinion.
Last edited by salamander on Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
http://m.startribune.com/as-stadium-dea ... 507429552/salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pmAfter interest it's been about $650 mil. It was in the Star Tribune awhile back.
Sorry that you're so angry at me for wanting good owners. You can call me a troll all you want, you'd be wrong though.
All I want is good ownership. Hell, I'd even take average ownership at this point.
What you're seeing now a fan who's built up 3 decades of watching Twins ownership suck and is sick of it.
Stop acting like a petulant child who's offended because someone else has a different opinion.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
I'd have to go back and find the article but my arguement stand whether it's 350 mil or 650 mil.jakazz30 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:41 pmhttp://m.startribune.com/as-stadium-dea ... 507429552/salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pmAfter interest it's been about $650 mil. It was in the Star Tribune awhile back.
Sorry that you're so angry at me for wanting good owners. You can call me a troll all you want, you'd be wrong though.
All I want is good ownership. Hell, I'd even take average ownership at this point.
What you're seeing now a fan who's built up 3 decades of watching Twins ownership suck and is sick of it.
Stop acting like a petulant child who's offended because someone else has a different opinion.
Please stop acting like a troll and answer the OP question.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Also:
http://www.startribune.com/hennepin-cou ... 410730375/The $555 million ballpark and its surrounding infrastructure were built with $350 million in funding from the county, or $675 million total with interest.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Read your own article. (Which is over 2 years old)salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:47 pmAlso:
http://www.startribune.com/hennepin-cou ... 410730375/The $555 million ballpark and its surrounding infrastructure were built with $350 million in funding from the county, or $675 million total with interest.
That was based on interest that won't happen because it will be paid off a decade earlier.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
What's going "all in"?salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:44 pmI'd have to go back and find the article but my arguement stand whether it's 350 mil or 650 mil.jakazz30 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:41 pmhttp://m.startribune.com/as-stadium-dea ... 507429552/salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pm
After interest it's been about $650 mil. It was in the Star Tribune awhile back.
Sorry that you're so angry at me for wanting good owners. You can call me a troll all you want, you'd be wrong though.
All I want is good ownership. Hell, I'd even take average ownership at this point.
What you're seeing now a fan who's built up 3 decades of watching Twins ownership suck and is sick of it.
Stop acting like a petulant child who's offended because someone else has a different opinion.
Please stop acting like a troll and answer the OP question.
A team that is obviously in a rebuilding situation...(very young and unproven)
That is a time to suddenly say "go for it"?
Were they supposed to have bumped their payroll $200M and told the young players enjoy their time back in Rochester? (The few that have options remaining, the rest are DFA'd)
There is no logic to your argument.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
I already answered that question.jakazz30 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:47 pmWhat's going "all in"?salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:44 pmI'd have to go back and find the article but my arguement stand whether it's 350 mil or 650 mil.
Please stop acting like a troll and answer the OP question.
A team that is obviously in a rebuilding situation...(very young and unproven)
That is a time to suddenly say "go for it"?
Were they supposed to have bumped their payroll $200M and told the young players enjoy their time back in Rochester? (The few that have options remaining, the rest are DFA'd)
There is no logic to your argument.
When should the team go all in? Why do you not want to answer that? I have yet to see this team go all in and I've been watching for decades (plural).
The only one here who has no logic is you. I'm done waiting. The time is now. The time will always be now for me until they do it which I have never seen because the pohlads have been the worst owners in all of sports. Your little scenario is ridiculous and not what I'm even talking about.
It almost seems like you're angry because I think the pohlads should go all in some time before the next century.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
And why do you ignore most posts that aren't related to this issue and only attack the posts that are related to this issue.
That's what a troll would do.
That's what a troll would do.
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Huh?salamander wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:54 pm And why do you ignore most posts that aren't related to this issue and only attack the posts that are related to this issue.
That's what a troll would do.
Are you aware of my history on Twins chat?
I'll discuss any subject...
(A couple of years ago, when the "casual" bit disappeared....I wound up starting almost 2/3s of the GDTs)
People might not "like" me......but nobody will question my passion for this team....(50+ years of it in my life...)
Troll?
Attack me instead of acknowledging you are wrong.....
who does that?
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
He's right. Now is not the time to go all in.salamander wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:32 pmI already answered that question.jakazz30 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:47 pmWhat's going "all in"?salamander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:44 pm
I'd have to go back and find the article but my arguement stand whether it's 350 mil or 650 mil.
Please stop acting like a troll and answer the OP question.
A team that is obviously in a rebuilding situation...(very young and unproven)
That is a time to suddenly say "go for it"?
Were they supposed to have bumped their payroll $200M and told the young players enjoy their time back in Rochester? (The few that have options remaining, the rest are DFA'd)
There is no logic to your argument.
When should the team go all in? Why do you not want to answer that? I have yet to see this team go all in and I've been watching for decades (plural).
The only one here who has no logic is you. I'm done waiting. The time is now. The time will always be now for me until they do it which I have never seen because the pohlads have been the worst owners in all of sports. Your little scenario is ridiculous and not what I'm even talking about.
It almost seems like you're angry because I think the pohlads should go all in some time before the next century.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
They don't ever go for it. You go back to 2010 when they had two MVPs on their team, and their big moves were Thome and JJ Hardy
Coming off a 96 win season in 2002, their big move was David Lamb
in 2006 they had the best rotation the Twins have possibly ever had, and did literally nothing to help that roster out for the playoffs.
Those are three examples in recent history of when the Twins could have made some big splashes, and just sat on their hands.
Coming off a 96 win season in 2002, their big move was David Lamb
in 2006 they had the best rotation the Twins have possibly ever had, and did literally nothing to help that roster out for the playoffs.
Those are three examples in recent history of when the Twins could have made some big splashes, and just sat on their hands.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
This. One nice move could of pushed these teams over the top. Pohlad don't care about winning though.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:56 pm They don't ever go for it. You go back to 2010 when they had two MVPs on their team, and their big moves were Thome and JJ Hardy
Coming off a 96 win season in 2002, their big move was David Lamb
in 2006 they had the best rotation the Twins have possibly ever had, and did literally nothing to help that roster out for the playoffs.
Those are three examples in recent history of when the Twins could have made some big splashes, and just sat on their hands.
As long as they hit that 2 million attendance record. That's the goal every year.
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Re: When will the year be for the Pohlad's to go "all in"?
Boys, lets not forget the contributions from Joe Crede, Brett Boone, Shannon Stewart, O-Dawg, and Terry Mulholland okay?
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