MLB Trade Rumors Top 50 Free Agents

[mglviks]

Holy cow 3 major league deals in 3 days!
Springer
Frazier
Oh

Take that agents/players. Guys are starting to sign deals again. Lol at a snails pace.

[Corre Ricky Corre]

Holy cow 3 major league deals in 3 days!
Springer
Frazier
Oh

Take that agents/players. Guys are starting to sign deals again. Lol at a snails pace.

This is actually crazy. It has been so slow....

[ForCaleb]

The San Diego Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year, $144 million contract, according to multiple reports.

[Small Hands]

The San Diego Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year, $144 million contract, according to multiple reports.

Expect Moose and JD to sign soon now.

[RubeTube]

The San Diego Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year, $144 million contract, according to multiple reports.

Pqdres got a good deal on this. They don't have to pay him much past 33 I guess. Just heard them talking on the radio and they said it was brilliant by San Diego.

Small market team, not very good and spending some money. How much have the Twins dropped so far? Like 8 million?

[Ron Burgundy 4 President]

The San Diego Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year, $144 million contract, according to multiple reports.

Good. Hosmer had a knack for having 4 games series where he hit like .700 against the Twins, even last year. Glad we won't see him much anymore.

[Sidewinder2k2]

The San Diego Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year, $144 million contract, according to multiple reports.

Pqdres got a good deal on this. They don't have to pay him much past 33 I guess. Just heard them talking on the radio and they said it was brilliant by San Diego.

Small market team, not very good and spending some money. How much have the Twins dropped so far? Like 8 million?

Absurd. This deal has "Mauer contract" written all over it. San Diego did KC a favor with this one.

[The Replacements]

The San Diego Padres and free-agent first baseman Eric Hosmer have agreed to an eight-year, $144 million contract, according to multiple reports.

Pqdres got a good deal on this. They don't have to pay him much past 33 I guess. Just heard them talking on the radio and they said it was brilliant by San Diego.

Small market team, not very good and spending some money. How much have the Twins dropped so far? Like 8 million?

Absurd. This deal has "Mauer contract" written all over it. San Diego did KC a favor with this one.

This is much worse than the Mauer contract. Mauer was at least a catcher at the beginning of the contract. The length and dollars to a first baseman who is a ground ball hitter. He will never hit 20 HR's playing in that ballpark.

[mglviks]

Francisco Liriano to Tigers 1yr 4m with 1m in incentives.

Said he wants to start but willing to go to the pen if needed.

It'll be a little weird if we get a Liriano vs Anibal matchup sometimes this year.

[ForCaleb]

Francisco Liriano to Tigers 1yr 4m with 1m in incentives.

Said he wants to start but willing to go to the pen if needed.

It'll be a little weird if we get a Liriano vs Anibal matchup sometimes this year.

That would be weird! Seems like a perfect spot for a getaway day match up.

[jakazz30]

Pqdres got a good deal on this. They don't have to pay him much past 33 I guess. Just heard them talking on the radio and they said it was brilliant by San Diego.

Small market team, not very good and spending some money. How much have the Twins dropped so far? Like 8 million?

Absurd. This deal has "Mauer contract" written all over it. San Diego did KC a favor with this one.

This is much worse than the Mauer contract. Mauer was at least a catcher at the beginning of the contract. The length and dollars to a first baseman who is a ground ball hitter. He will never hit 20 HR's playing in that ballpark.

So every other aspect of his game is irrelevant?

[The Replacements]

Absurd. This deal has "Mauer contract" written all over it. San Diego did KC a favor with this one.

This is much worse than the Mauer contract. Mauer was at least a catcher at the beginning of the contract. The length and dollars to a first baseman who is a ground ball hitter. He will never hit 20 HR's playing in that ballpark.

So every other aspect of his game is irrelevant?

The numbers he puts up at first base can be obtained a much lower cost and shorter commitment. They are pay $$$ for a high character guy who will help the younger players develop. They will regret this deal.

[jakazz30]

This is much worse than the Mauer contract. Mauer was at least a catcher at the beginning of the contract. The length and dollars to a first baseman who is a ground ball hitter. He will never hit 20 HR's playing in that ballpark.

So every other aspect of his game is irrelevant?

The numbers he puts up at first base can be obtained a much lower cost and shorter commitment. They are pay $$$ for a high character guy who will help the younger players develop. They will regret this deal.

And is pretty much one of the best first basemen in baseball

And entering his prime.

[Sidewinder2k2]

And is pretty much one of the best first basemen in baseball

And entering his prime.

He's got a great glove, but I just don't like the way his offensive game is going. Too many ground balls and going to probably the best pitcher's park in the game.

He might be entering his prime, but that contract will keep him there well past his prime.

Plus, this moves Myers (who just signed an extension last year) back to the OF, where he just isn't very good.

[The Replacements]

Offensively he projects out to the 14th best 1B in baseball.

[Billy Bremner]

Francisco Liriano to Tigers 1yr 4m with 1m in incentives.

Said he wants to start but willing to go to the pen if needed.

It'll be a little weird if we get a Liriano vs Anibal matchup sometimes this year.

Gardy is getting the old gang together. Delmon Young has his other hand on the phone waiting for a call.

[jakazz30]

Offensively he projects out to the 14th best 1B in baseball.

Source?

Not doubting you...I'd just like to look at the list.

[The Replacements]

Offensively he projects out to the 14th best 1B in baseball.

Source?

Not doubting you...I'd just like to look at the list.

http://thefantasyfix.com/fantasy-baseba ... t-basemen/

[jakazz30]

Offensively he projects out to the 14th best 1B in baseball.

Source?

Not doubting you...I'd just like to look at the list.

http://thefantasyfix.com/fantasy-baseba ... t-basemen/

That's one guys fantasy baseball take....

Did you read what he said about his #1 player?

"With all deference to Goldschmidt, he is not the best offensive first basemen in the game. However, he does routinely steal bases. While that might not add a ton of value in real baseball, it is a huge deal in fantasy baseball. One of the problems number crunchers have is the need to turn off that side of the brain when it comes time to picking in the draft."

So his #1 isn't even really the true #1.

[The Replacements]

It's based on PECOTA projections so you can choose to agree with it or not. What you can easily see is it's not too hard to find similar offensive players for a lot less money.

[jakazz30]

It's based on PECOTA projections so you can choose to agree with it or not. What you can easily see is it's not too hard to find similar offensive players for a lot less money.

I don't disagree with that..
I'm not planning on drafting Hosmer in fantasy.

But understand Pecota...
They traditionally hate the Royals, and anything involving them.
(Including their name)

[The Replacements]

Take a look at another opinion. I don't think you will find one that thinks this is a good deal.

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/ ... ree-agency

[jakazz30]

Take a look at another opinion. I don't think you will find one that thinks this is a good deal.

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/ ... ree-agency

Pecota again...

Understand if you look at my "analytics" thread, these guys also say a 4 time gold glover is one of the worst fielders in baseball at 1st.

[The Replacements]

Defensive metrics are the toughest analytical argument but it's hard to argue the offensive numbers. Hosmer is an average to slightly above average hitter. Hard to argue against that.

[bubu dubu.]

Twins have quietly spent around $30 mill this offseason (so far). No huge splashy name, but a lot of guys who will contribute to a well rounded team.

3 Bullpen guys with Rodney, Duke and Reed
1 starter in Odorizzi, a guy they will pay to rehab this year in Pineda
a fulltime DH in Morrisson.

Not a typical Twins offseason. They must feel they are close with the young core.

[beetlebum71]

Twins have quietly spent around $30 mill this offseason (so far). No huge splashy name, but a lot of guys who will contribute to a well rounded team.

3 Bullpen guys with Rodney, Duke and Reed
1 starter in Odorizzi, a guy they will pay to rehab this year in Pineda
a fulltime DH in Morrisson.

Not a typical Twins offseason. They must feel they are close with the young core.

It's not important to win this season, as in win divisions and compete for titles and whatnot, but it's important that the team doesn't take a step back. This team won 85 games last year. If they hadn't have added to the roster and watched this team fall back to the mid-70's or something like that, you're sort of starting at ground zero with the young guys again. It's important to take the momentum they gained last year and build on it. That's what they couldn't do after Mollie's first season. They won 83 games that year and then immediately fell back to 59 the next. They recovered last year, but another fall back could be costly. Time to keep the needle moving forward. I think they've added enough to do that.

[HeHateMe]

Twins have quietly spent around $30 mill this offseason (so far). No huge splashy name, but a lot of guys who will contribute to a well rounded team.

3 Bullpen guys with Rodney, Duke and Reed
1 starter in Odorizzi, a guy they will pay to rehab this year in Pineda
a fulltime DH in Morrisson.

Not a typical Twins offseason. They must feel they are close with the young core.

It's not important to win this season, as in win divisions and compete for titles and whatnot, but it's important that the team doesn't take a step back. This team won 85 games last year. If they hadn't have added to the roster and watched this team fall back to the mid-70's or something like that, you're sort of starting at ground zero with the young guys again. It's important to take the momentum they gained last year and build on it. That's what they couldn't do after Mollie's first season. They won 83 games that year and then immediately fell back to 59 the next. They recovered last year, but another fall back could be costly. Time to keep the needle moving forward. I think they've added enough to do that.

If they were to get Lynn or Cobb at this point, I don't know how anyone would say it's anything less than an A.

Two good starters (if they sign one of those guys) plus three additions to the bullpen... your offense was solid last year but no one ever would complain about adding a bat with some pop. Morrison at DH over Grossman/Mauer... omg, sign me up.

[beetlebum71]

Twins have quietly spent around $30 mill this offseason (so far). No huge splashy name, but a lot of guys who will contribute to a well rounded team.

3 Bullpen guys with Rodney, Duke and Reed
1 starter in Odorizzi, a guy they will pay to rehab this year in Pineda
a fulltime DH in Morrisson.

Not a typical Twins offseason. They must feel they are close with the young core.

It's not important to win this season, as in win divisions and compete for titles and whatnot, but it's important that the team doesn't take a step back. This team won 85 games last year. If they hadn't have added to the roster and watched this team fall back to the mid-70's or something like that, you're sort of starting at ground zero with the young guys again. It's important to take the momentum they gained last year and build on it. That's what they couldn't do after Mollie's first season. They won 83 games that year and then immediately fell back to 59 the next. They recovered last year, but another fall back could be costly. Time to keep the needle moving forward. I think they've added enough to do that.

If they were to get Lynn or Cobb at this point, I don't know how anyone would say it's anything less than an A.

Two good starters (if they sign one of those guys) plus three additions to the bullpen... your offense was solid last year but no one ever would complain about adding a bat with some pop. Morrison at DH over Grossman/Mauer... omg, sign me up.

I'm not sure people have realistic expectations for what Lynn or Cobb would bring to the table. Writers made it seem like the FA SP crop was 4 players deep. Darvish, Arietta, Cobb, and Lynn. The truth is that the first two guys on that list are way better than the last two. Cobb had TJ 3 years ago, and Lynn had it 2 years ago. Cobb has been nothing like he was before the surgery since. Low strikeout totals, lots of hits allowed, and more HR's allowed than before. Lynn had a really strange 2017 season. His ERA looks fine. His K's dipped, but were still respectable. His H/9 went way down from what it had ever been before. At the same time, he allowed almost double the HR's he'd ever allowed in a single season. His FIP was over almost a run and a half higher than his career average, which indicates that his quality ERA might have been pretty fluky. Add to that he'd be going from the NL to the AL, and it's easy to expect a marked regression from his raw numbers in 2017.

If I had to choose one, I'd probably chose Lynn, just because he has a little more of a track record than Cobb, but I wouldn't go beyond 1 year for either of them at this point. Ultimately, I don't think there's anything even close to a guarantee that either of them would outperform Gonsalves or Romero this year. I think, at this point, there are enough options for the rotation that you can get through the early part of the season, get Santana back, and hope at least one of your two young bulls forces his way up. I'd rather do that than fill a roster spot with an expensive question mark.

[HeHateMe]

I'm sure that's what the Twins are thinking too... though is it possible Gibson and Santana are both gone next year so you're looking at Odorizzi, Berrios (when is that tommy john coming?!) and the young guys? Pineada too, yes... I don't know... I just have a hard time when the front office mentions Phil Hughes as a possibility, and Mejia hasn't really dominated at triple A so what warrants a spot in the rotation for him? If Gibson is terrible again, there's an open spot.... if Santana still has issues after surgery..... I guess I'd try to figure out how you can get Lynn for a 2+1, partially guarantee that third year.

[Small Hands]

It's not important to win this season, as in win divisions and compete for titles and whatnot, but it's important that the team doesn't take a step back. This team won 85 games last year. If they hadn't have added to the roster and watched this team fall back to the mid-70's or something like that, you're sort of starting at ground zero with the young guys again. It's important to take the momentum they gained last year and build on it. That's what they couldn't do after Mollie's first season. They won 83 games that year and then immediately fell back to 59 the next. They recovered last year, but another fall back could be costly. Time to keep the needle moving forward. I think they've added enough to do that.

If they were to get Lynn or Cobb at this point, I don't know how anyone would say it's anything less than an A.

Two good starters (if they sign one of those guys) plus three additions to the bullpen... your offense was solid last year but no one ever would complain about adding a bat with some pop. Morrison at DH over Grossman/Mauer... omg, sign me up.

I'm not sure people have realistic expectations for what Lynn or Cobb would bring to the table. Writers made it seem like the FA SP crop was 4 players deep. Darvish, Arietta, Cobb, and Lynn. The truth is that the first two guys on that list are way better than the last two. Cobb had TJ 3 years ago, and Lynn had it 2 years ago. Cobb has been nothing like he was before the surgery since. Low strikeout totals, lots of hits allowed, and more HR's allowed than before. Lynn had a really strange 2017 season. His ERA looks fine. His K's dipped, but were still respectable. His H/9 went way down from what it had ever been before. At the same time, he allowed almost double the HR's he'd ever allowed in a single season. His FIP was over almost a run and a half higher than his career average, which indicates that his quality ERA might have been pretty fluky. Add to that he'd be going from the NL to the AL, and it's easy to expect a marked regression from his raw numbers in 2017.

If I had to choose one, I'd probably chose Lynn, just because he has a little more of a track record than Cobb, but I wouldn't go beyond 1 year for either of them at this point. Ultimately, I don't think there's anything even close to a guarantee that either of them would outperform Gonsalves or Romero this year. I think, at this point, there are enough options for the rotation that you can get through the early part of the season, get Santana back, and hope at least one of your two young bulls forces his way up. I'd rather do that than fill a roster spot with an expensive question mark.

Your assessment of Cobb and Lynn are accurate. However, You know what you're gonna get with these two, as apposed to huge question marks with Gonsalves and Romero. Berrios, Odorizzi, and a bunch of fringe options is not the way I'd like to start the season. Plus, who knows if Santana comes back without a hitch. Finger injuries are very finicky with pitchers. Blisters have been known to sideline guys for months. This is surgery.

I don't love either of the two. The Twins would have been far better off, if they were able to make a trade for Archer, or pony up and sign Arrieta. The team is kind of backed into a corner here. No one should take this rotation seriously.