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2019 NHL Free Agency Thread

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Does Minnesota still have a team?
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Sid Hartman wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:23 pm Does Minnesota still have a team?
Yes, but I'm hopeful we can somehow pawn off this collection of stiffs to Seattle and get their expansion team in the Wild's stead.
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Jimtown guy wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:56 pm AAA45382-624D-4C5F-BCCD-1607A09E8C2A.jpeg
:clap: :lol:

Cool with Coyotes but fuck the Wild?! Ouch.

Always wanted Alex Galchenyuk for us during his years in the rumor mill. Suppose his stats will balloon now.
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mglviks wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:55 pm
Jimtown guy wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:56 pm AAA45382-624D-4C5F-BCCD-1607A09E8C2A.jpeg
:clap: :lol:

Cool with Coyotes but fuck the Wild?! Ouch.

Always wanted Alex Galchenyuk for us during his years in the rumor mill. Suppose his stats will balloon now.
So Kessel wouldn't approve a trade to the Wild, but he would a trade to the Coyotes? That's sad considering AZ is arguably the worst franchise in the league both on and off the ice, but also illustrates the sad reality of just how little respect the Wild currently command among the players in the league.

As far as Galchenyuk is concerned, I think the Wild were pretty close to pulling to trigger on a trade for him a couple of years ago, but the Wild tried to lower the ante in the wake of rumors of some serious substance abuse issues regarding Galchenyk and the deal never materialized. For the record, said issues turned out to be true, but whether or not he still has them is anyone's guess.
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Pavelski to the Stars, Ducshene to the Preds, and Shaw back to the Hawks
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Love it! Zuccarello is one of my favorite players in the league. Took what they would have paid Granlund and saved 4 million per year for a similar impact player IMO. Zuc will be a fan favorite from day one!
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Jimtown guy wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:58 pm F8D0695A-4D34-4746-BAD5-5C9723A6641D.jpeg
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They finally get a rhs rw in Hartman. Solid young player with some upside.

Mats is a granny clone older but cheaper.
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Granlund's contract is less than 6 million and expires after this season, is 27, has 322 points in 477 games. Mats will be 32 in September, has 355 points in 511 games at 5 years and 6 million. This is a historically stupid contract for an aging dwarf. YUCK.
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bombers3shooter wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:27 pm Love it! Zuccarello is one of my favorite players in the league. Took what they would have paid Granlund and saved 4 million per year for a similar impact player IMO. Zuc will be a fan favorite from day one!
Saved $4 million??? LOL! $2-2.5, sure. Granny will not get $10MM. I do like the deal for Zuc.
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The Minnesota Wild are expected to sign forward Ryan Hartman to a two-year contract worth $1.9 million annually, according to TSN's Pierre LeBrun.
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Panarin to the Rangers. 7 years at 81.5 mil
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I don't hate that contract or the signing of Hartman. I think he is a physical player with skill.
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Ron Burgundy 4 President wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:52 am So Kessel wouldn't approve a trade to the Wild, but he would a trade to the Coyotes? That's sad considering AZ is arguably the worst franchise in the league both on and off the ice, but also illustrates the sad reality of just how little respect the Wild currently command among the players in the league.
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I don't like the Zuccarello signing. A 5 year deal for a 31 year old forward that missed half of last season. The denial with this front office never ends. They should be blowing this thing up, not tying themselves up long term with another guy that's probably past his prime.
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What ESPN is saying, can't disagree.

Where does he fit in?

Zuccarello is a left-handed shot, but he should play right wing for the Wild, given their need for a steady offensive presence in their top six on the right side.

What I've always liked about the Norwegian winger is that he can create his own offense, and thus drive a line. He can put the puck in the net on occasion, for about 15 goals, but it's his playmaking ability and offensive creativity that make him stand out. These are attributes the Wild certainly need more of in their lineup. He can play on the power play and kills penalties as well. He's small, listed at 5-foot-8, but that's never deterred him.

He's also a delight. He was a heart-and-soul player for the Rangers during his time there, and left a hole in that locker room when he departed. A well-liked player in the room, off the ice and in the community, and that's something that should be valued.

Does the deal make sense?

Mats Zuccarello is a $6 million AAV talent. That's right around where his contract value was expected to land. The money is not the issue. The term could be an issue, given that he turns 32 years old in September and his numbers had a small decline since 2016 (outside of the contract-year spike he had last season in 48 games). The term is most certainly the issue for the Minnesota Wild, as there's simply no defendable reason why they went this long with a free agent of Zuccarello's age at this point in their franchise's history.

Zuccarello would be a veteran asset on a young team. The Wild are not one. Zach Parise, Mikko Koivu, Eric Staal, Ryan Suter and Devan Dubnyk will all be north of 33 years old next season. Zuccarello would be a significant piece on a contending team. The Wild, or more to the point owner Craig Leipold, see themselves as one next season, even though they're not. By the time they are, Zuccarello might be in his mid-30s, making $6 million annually. Staal is turning 35, has 64 goals in his past two seasons, and he's making $3.25 million. So that's some math right there.

So far, Paul Fenton has been the "D.C. Cinematic Universe" of NHL general managers: Highly anticipated, awful start, immediate concern from the die-hards about its overall direction. We were hoping the Victor Rask and Charlie Coyle deals were his "Batman V. Superman" and it was out of his system. At best, this Zuccarello deal is his "Aquaman." At worst, it's his "Justice League."

Overall grade: C-

An effective player, but one that just doesn't seem to fit the Wild's timeline.
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full force five wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:35 pm What ESPN is saying, can't disagree.

Where does he fit in?

Zuccarello is a left-handed shot, but he should play right wing for the Wild, given their need for a steady offensive presence in their top six on the right side.

What I've always liked about the Norwegian winger is that he can create his own offense, and thus drive a line. He can put the puck in the net on occasion, for about 15 goals, but it's his playmaking ability and offensive creativity that make him stand out. These are attributes the Wild certainly need more of in their lineup. He can play on the power play and kills penalties as well. He's small, listed at 5-foot-8, but that's never deterred him.

He's also a delight. He was a heart-and-soul player for the Rangers during his time there, and left a hole in that locker room when he departed. A well-liked player in the room, off the ice and in the community, and that's something that should be valued.

Does the deal make sense?

Mats Zuccarello is a $6 million AAV talent. That's right around where his contract value was expected to land. The money is not the issue. The term could be an issue, given that he turns 32 years old in September and his numbers had a small decline since 2016 (outside of the contract-year spike he had last season in 48 games). The term is most certainly the issue for the Minnesota Wild, as there's simply no defendable reason why they went this long with a free agent of Zuccarello's age at this point in their franchise's history.

Zuccarello would be a veteran asset on a young team. The Wild are not one. Zach Parise, Mikko Koivu, Eric Staal, Ryan Suter and Devan Dubnyk will all be north of 33 years old next season. Zuccarello would be a significant piece on a contending team. The Wild, or more to the point owner Craig Leipold, see themselves as one next season, even though they're not. By the time they are, Zuccarello might be in his mid-30s, making $6 million annually. Staal is turning 35, has 64 goals in his past two seasons, and he's making $3.25 million. So that's some math right there.

So far, Paul Fenton has been the "D.C. Cinematic Universe" of NHL general managers: Highly anticipated, awful start, immediate concern from the die-hards about its overall direction. We were hoping the Victor Rask and Charlie Coyle deals were his "Batman V. Superman" and it was out of his system. At best, this Zuccarello deal is his "Aquaman." At worst, it's his "Justice League."

Overall grade: C-

An effective player, but one that just doesn't seem to fit the Wild's timeline.
Exactly. The Wild should be blowing up, but instead, they're adding another bad contract that they won't be able to get out of. Fenton has proven to be Leipold's puppet, nothing more.
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Factor in how much better Dallas, Nashville will be after their additions, ouch. St. Louis just won the cup. Winnipeg has a few guys but will still be very good same with Colorado. Chicago is in a similar spot as the wild with older players, the Wild need to bottom out and probably will be they still have horrible contracts.
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Hartman is at least a PIA, and at good/easy money.

Agree with the ESPN article on Zuccarello overall. Again tho, may be a nice trade-piece at deadline.
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full force five wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:20 pm Factor in how much better Dallas, Nashville will be after their additions, ouch. St. Louis just won the cup. Winnipeg has a few guys but will still be very good same with Colorado. Chicago is in a similar spot as the wild with older players, the Wild need to bottom out and probably will be they still have horrible contracts.
I'm gonna say that Nashville will not be improved...
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full force five wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:20 pm Factor in how much better Dallas, Nashville will be after their additions, ouch. St. Louis just won the cup. Winnipeg has a few guys but will still be very good same with Colorado. Chicago is in a similar spot as the wild with older players, the Wild need to bottom out and probably will be they still have horrible contracts.
Basically took the words right out of my mouth. The Wild are by far the worst team in the division, the only one that's even close is Chicago, but the Wild would need a lot of luck to even finish better than them for the foreseeable future.

As far as Zuccarello is concerned, I would have liked this deal a lot more about 2-3 years ago. He may be worth it for a year or two, but who cares? This team will suck plenty with him or without him. At his age, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's bought out by the team before the contract expires.
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Lenny5160 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:30 pm
full force five wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:20 pm Factor in how much better Dallas, Nashville will be after their additions, ouch. St. Louis just won the cup. Winnipeg has a few guys but will still be very good same with Colorado. Chicago is in a similar spot as the wild with older players, the Wild need to bottom out and probably will be they still have horrible contracts.
I'm gonna say that Nashville will not be improved...
Well, however you want to evaluate them they are still light years ahead of the Wild in both the short and long term.
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Hole Nova Level wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:28 pm Hartman is at least a PIA, and at good/easy money.

Agree with the ESPN article on Zuccarello overall. Again tho, may be a nice trade-piece at deadline.
There are rumors that Hartman has some issues putting down the bottle and the fact that he is on his fourth team in three seasons sort of confirms it. Having said that, for the money it's worth the gamble, the Wild can could use a loose cannon like Hartman even though it's obviously not gonna move the needle much in terms of wins/losses.
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Habs extend offer sheet to Aho.

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Ron Burgundy 4 President wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:47 pm Habs extend offer sheet to Aho.
And it's a crazy one. League-minimum salary with huge annual cash bonuses. Tough for a small market team like Carolina to swing that.
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Ron Burgundy 4 President wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:45 pm
Hole Nova Level wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:28 pm Hartman is at least a PIA, and at good/easy money.

Agree with the ESPN article on Zuccarello overall. Again tho, may be a nice trade-piece at deadline.
There are rumors that Hartman has some issues putting down the bottle and the fact that he is on his fourth team in three seasons sort of confirms it. Having said that, for the money it's worth the gamble, the Wild can could use a loose cannon like Hartman even though it's obviously not gonna move the needle much in terms of wins/losses.
Yeah ultimately whatever "middle/low" tier FA's the Wild sign isn't gonna move any needle for this team. The fact that they can sign an FA and on paper they don't get any better with a net result being "meh", says everything you need to know right now.
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