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Not the best news for the Wild..

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jakazz30
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Not the best news for the Wild..

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Report: NHL salary cap will be lower than expected
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1789042
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Actually it hurts other teams alot more. Difference of 1 to 1.5 mil short of what was expected. But more teams with less space than us.
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mglviks wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:08 pm Actually it hurts other teams alot more. Difference of 1 to 1.5 mil short of what was expected. But more teams with less space than us.
Yeah it’s not really that big of deal. The Wild have a long ways to go before worrying about a mil or 2
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Two years ago this might have been hell but this year actually this helps the Wild. Better chance at RFA's on teams with tight caps.

I still think the Wild will struggle in free agency. This is not a great destination at the moment... but, if you can find a team who is hot on a FA and looking to shed some players and contracts, we might be able to get a steal or two.
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D_B_U wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:29 am Two years ago this might have been hell but this year actually this helps the Wild. Better chance at RFA's on teams with tight caps.

I still think the Wild will struggle in free agency. This is not a great destination at the moment... but, if you can find a team who is hot on a FA and looking to shed some players and contracts, we might be able to get a steal or two.
But MN is the State of Hockey!!! :lol:
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It's not a great destination: The team is average at best, crazy high state income taxes, and horrible weather (not as much an issue with hockey players).
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full force five wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:28 pm It's not a great destination: The team is average at best, crazy high state income taxes, and horrible weather (not as much an issue with hockey players).
Yeah it's not like the NBA where all these spoiled pussies are afraid of a little cold and need to be around the nearest nightclub with their 23 man posses leaking money from them.
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JigglyPuff wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:13 pm
D_B_U wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:29 am Two years ago this might have been hell but this year actually this helps the Wild. Better chance at RFA's on teams with tight caps.

I still think the Wild will struggle in free agency. This is not a great destination at the moment... but, if you can find a team who is hot on a FA and looking to shed some players and contracts, we might be able to get a steal or two.
But MN is the State of Hockey!!! :lol:
Sadly I think thats how many fans think and just assume because someone played college hockey here or grew up here they are willing to come play for a bad team(at the moment).

I would love if they could just blow it up and get young and have 2-3 drafts to build but as we have discussed at length that cant happen with the Suter/Parise deals. I was impressed with what Fenton did to make some cap space but it will be tough to not overpay on guys.
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It's a stupid argument. Good players don't sign only with "good" teams and it's all about the sale. The Wild get great support locally and in the NHL we see a handful of teams every year make the playoffs, "out of nowhere". Some of you sound like a typical MN, "OMG WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE" sports fan.
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DC4MVP wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:01 pm
full force five wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:28 pm It's not a great destination: The team is average at best, crazy high state income taxes, and horrible weather (not as much an issue with hockey players).
Yeah it's not like the NBA where all these spoiled pussies are afraid of a little cold and need to be around the nearest nightclub with their 23 man posses leaking money from them.
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Slap Shot wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm It's a stupid argument. Good players don't sign only with "good" teams and it's all about the sale. The Wild get great support locally and in the NHL we see a handful of teams every year make the playoffs, "out of nowhere". Some of you sound like a typical MN, "OMG WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE" sports fan.
Actually this team is pretty f'd for the next 5+ years. Good buddy of mine is a scout for the team. Says internally the team is a mess. Fenton is about to be fired. No free agents have any interest in signing here, yes even guys who are from MN.

Parise is also trying to find a way out. He may drop his no trade clause to get the F off this mess of a team.

Also, Suter is not well liked in the locker room, which really is no secret.
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focker wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:18 am
Slap Shot wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm It's a stupid argument. Good players don't sign only with "good" teams and it's all about the sale. The Wild get great support locally and in the NHL we see a handful of teams every year make the playoffs, "out of nowhere". Some of you sound like a typical MN, "OMG WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE" sports fan.
Actually this team is pretty f'd for the next 5+ years. Good buddy of mine is a scout for the team. Says internally the team is a mess. Fenton is about to be fired. No free agents have any interest in signing here, yes even guys who are from MN.

Parise is also trying to find a way out. He may drop his no trade clause to get the F off this mess of a team.

Also, Suter is not well liked in the locker room, which really is no secret.
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Slap Shot wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm It's a stupid argument. Good players don't sign only with "good" teams and it's all about the sale. The Wild get great support locally and in the NHL we see a handful of teams every year make the playoffs, "out of nowhere". Some of you sound like a typical MN, "OMG WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE" sports fan.
Hockey is a different animal/breed. The money game is different in the NHL. Top dogs get paid and the top dogs are rare breeds in the most-skilled game in the world (hockey). The FA's the Wild go after or any meddling team for that matter are gonna be middle-tier guys that do care about the "situation". They want ice time and they want a good locker-room, especially if they are gonna be on a middle tier-team (Wild). And yes, TOP Dogs aren't gonna go to a meddling team- the money for them will be there and they'll get it from a GOOD team or what they deem to be a good team.

This aint the NFL, where you can money coax top- players to sh-t teams.
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Hole Nova Level wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
Slap Shot wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm It's a stupid argument. Good players don't sign only with "good" teams and it's all about the sale. The Wild get great support locally and in the NHL we see a handful of teams every year make the playoffs, "out of nowhere". Some of you sound like a typical MN, "OMG WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE" sports fan.
Hockey is a different animal/breed. The money game is different in the NHL. Top dogs get paid and the top dogs are rare breeds in the most-skilled game in the world (hockey). The FA's the Wild go after or any meddling team for that matter are gonna be middle-tier guys that do care about the "situation". They want ice time and they want a good locker-room, especially if they are gonna be on a middle tier-team (Wild). And yes, TOP Dogs aren't gonna go to a meddling team- the money for them will be there and they'll get it from a GOOD team or what they deem to be a good team.

This aint the NFL, where you can money coax top- players to sh-t teams.
I'm sure there is some truth to that but then how to mediocre franchises get better? And it happens we see it every year and it can't all be via the draft. Did the city of St. Louis suddenly become a geographical and entertainment destination for NHL free agents? :irked:
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Slap Shot wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Hole Nova Level wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
Slap Shot wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 pm It's a stupid argument. Good players don't sign only with "good" teams and it's all about the sale. The Wild get great support locally and in the NHL we see a handful of teams every year make the playoffs, "out of nowhere". Some of you sound like a typical MN, "OMG WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE" sports fan.
Hockey is a different animal/breed. The money game is different in the NHL. Top dogs get paid and the top dogs are rare breeds in the most-skilled game in the world (hockey). The FA's the Wild go after or any meddling team for that matter are gonna be middle-tier guys that do care about the "situation". They want ice time and they want a good locker-room, especially if they are gonna be on a middle tier-team (Wild). And yes, TOP Dogs aren't gonna go to a meddling team- the money for them will be there and they'll get it from a GOOD team or what they deem to be a good team.

This aint the NFL, where you can money coax top- players to sh-t teams.
I'm sure there is some truth to that but then how to mediocre franchises get better? And it happens we see it every year and it can't all be via the draft. Did the city of St. Louis suddenly become a geographical and entertainment destination for NHL free agents? :irked:
No because as stated that's not why FA's sign places. Also no, because what "big/good" FA's did STL sign to stack their team? They built the Stanley cup winner via 2 significant trades and via the draft (their 2 best players Tarsenyko 16 overall and Pietrangelo 4th overall) were drafted.

They didn't sign big-time FA's to take them over the top. Again the NHL is a different animal. It's nothing like the NFL or NBA were big time FA's can be had. The one's that are out there, want to go where there is ice time (opportunity) and a good/decent locker room because the money will be the same no matter the team (marketplace).
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The wild might be THE worst team at drafting players in the entire league. The guys they've selected that have played up to their draft spot are few and far between.
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