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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Hole Nova Level » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:46 am

Hornets wrote:
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Hole Nova Level wrote:
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I still don't deny it. You act as though he shouldn't be in the league and that is absurd. On a side note, I have a buddy who works in the Wild ticket office. If you want I could see if he could possibly get that autograph for you!
No. I act as tho he's not a top Dman. And is a 5-6 Dman (some teams and some nights- a healthy scratch). Therefore I want nothing to do with his 170 pound-teeny-tiny-baby-autograph. I wouldn't even let my kids get his autograph.

Your delusion has caught up to you. And here we are. Look what that got us to this place. REBUILD.

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Love your enthusiasm! Ok, on a serious note, what's your thought on the Kunin trade? I kind of liked him but was hoping he would have produced a bit more. I know Bonino has been around quite awhile but don't know much about his game.
I liked the trade for the reasons I told Jimtown Guy:

"Not in future plans but he (Bonino) brings an actual BALLSACK into the locker-room. So that's a start.

They could easily turn him for another pick or two, for a team that needs him for a playoff run (not the Wild). So it's good for long term complete Rebuild that this team is about 3-5 years late on."

Kunin was a long list of "young" potential, etc....the Wild touted- An underlying problem with this team has never been the lack of "young guys" it's always been they are miscast in conjunction with their potential and the leadership that is making them better (or not).

I'm amazed at how quickly the "state of hockey" has forgotten the importance of true leadership. If you have good captains, like big dogs, alpha dogs, they will push, challenge, demand, expect, give resepct, etc...to those "young guys" with potential. The Wild have wasted a lot of young-guy-talent because they haven't had a culture in place via leadership to make them better. Thru the locker room, plane ride, to practice, how Steve Yzerman, Scott Stevens, Mark Messier, Zdeno Chara, Rod Brind"amour, etc...challenged, demanded, gave, conducted, accountability, etc....young guys got better. They played to their potential because it was demanded of them. You go 1 v 1 against Scott Stevens, or go into a corner with him, or are his D-partner in practice day in and day out, and your a young Patrick Elias, Brian Rolston, Scott Gomez or a young Scott Neidermayer, your gonna get better.

The Wild have never had that. I'll only know how good Kunin could be (he showed good potential) on another team. You'll never see a young-guy in the current state of the Wild, become something. And before you or anyone go throwing out a list of players, just know, there are none. There isn't a young-gun-guy, that Zach Parise pushed and set an example for and now he's a key cog for the team. There isn't a young-gun D-man that Suter Pushed and set an example for and now he's a key cog D-man....We have had nothing but an entire roster of expendable players during Parise/Suter years (yes I include them as they've show to be pointless in the pursuit of anything of hockey value for this team)

I've said, "trade everything you have", literally. And any young-gun you bring in....Make sure Parise and Suter are soon to be out of the picture. That's where Bonino may come in...."balls in the locker room" sorta deal. Actual Leadership.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Hole Nova Level » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:58 am

Beef Supreme wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:54 pm
So puckheads, sell me on these guys. I’m a hockey fan, but the Wild bore the shit out of me. Will these guys be exciting?


Our new center is a Little Person right? Like a Martin St-Louis Little Person or a Pierre Marc-Bouchard Little Person?


Thanks!
The best thing about Rossi is he's an Austrian kid, moved the Switzerland to play against better competition, then got drafted to the OHL (to me still the best tier 1 junior league in the world above USHL for producing the direct NHL pipeline).

He put up those 120 points in the OHL. He's well traveled, has always played "up" and has some metal to him. This isn't some softy from Edina that put up 70 points against half of a schedule against small schools with sophomores and juniors and one-or two seniors...

The league he's coming from is legit. Night in and night out, it's a mans league. Loved that we grabbed a baller out of the OHL and would love to see more draft picks for this team to come from the OHL and WHL for that matter...vs. Sweden and USHL etc...the "type" of kid your getting from those leagues (OHL/WHL) is what the Wild need and have needed.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Jimtown guy » Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:55 am

Hola your last 2 posts were excellent. I agree with everything you said. Instead of you doing it, I will give you a pat on the back

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Sid Hartman » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:02 pm

RT @RussoHockey: Cam Talbot, 3 years, $11 million to #mnwild
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by mglviks » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:32 pm

Sid Hartman wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:02 pm
RT @RussoHockey: Cam Talbot, 3 years, $11 million to #mnwild
Cant complain. While not elite has always been very good. Nice 1 2 stable.

3 years Hunter Jones should be ready.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Mandatory » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 pm

Any early ideas what the lines are going to look like next year?

Should we expect many more moves/additions?
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Sid Hartman » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:10 pm

Mandatory - Dominus wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 pm
Any early ideas what the lines are going to look like next year?

Should we expect many more moves/additions?
They are pretty much done with their cap situation and their RFA’a they need to re-sign
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Ask Not » Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:22 pm

Mandatory - Dominus wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 pm
Any early ideas what the lines are going to look like next year?

Should we expect many more moves/additions?
Putrid. Russo has Johansson centering Kaprizov and Fiala. Johansson has never been able to stick as a center and he's the #1.

Russo guesses:
Parise Ek Zuccarello
Greenway Bonino Bjugstad
Foligno Rask Hartman
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Beef Supreme » Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:17 pm

Sid Hartman wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:02 pm
RT @RussoHockey: Cam Talbot, 3 years, $11 million to #mnwild
I don’t know Cam Talbot from Cam Newton, but it seems like the wild are pretty busy.


Is this going to work? Is the team going to be better or at least more exciting?
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Bob Wiley » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:57 pm

I’m a casual hockey guy but I would love to jump on the bandwagon if they can be better than mediocre.
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Mandatory » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:07 pm

Bob Wiley wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:57 pm
I’m a casual hockey guy but I would love to jump on the bandwagon if they can be better than mediocre.
We'll see what happens once the season starts.. but even if they're bad I'm looking forward to just having new blood. Washing the Fletcher/Fenton stench off.
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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Hole Nova Level » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:54 pm

Beef Supreme wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:17 pm
Sid Hartman wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:02 pm
RT @RussoHockey: Cam Talbot, 3 years, $11 million to #mnwild

Is the team going to be better or at least more exciting?
No.

Wait 2-3 seasons. And as long as parise/suter/dumba are here the teams not worth a shit.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Hole Nova Level » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:59 pm

Bob Wiley wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:57 pm
I’m a casual hockey guy but I would love to jump on the bandwagon if they can be better than mediocre.
Wait 2-3 season and/ or until parise/suter/ dumba are gone....

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by bubu dubu. » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:05 pm

Do the Wild have any more work to do on their own free agents? I saw they resigned Kahkonen and Greenway today.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by full force five » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:25 am

The Wild will suck until Zach and Sutter's contract expire. You can also say Spurgeon, Zuc, Dumba and Brodin. All are decent players but not studs who you win cups with. The Wild will suck for probably the next 5 years. They need to bottom out, stock top 3 draft picks and regroup.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Slap Shot » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:47 am

They will be measurable better the minute they up the grit factor from -5 to at least +5.

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Re: *Wild Off-Season Chat*

Post by Hole Nova Level » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:40 pm

full force five wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:25 am
The Wild will suck until Zach and Sutter's contract expire. You can also say Spurgeon, Zuc, Dumba and Brodin. All are decent players but not studs who you win cups with. The Wild will suck for probably the next 5 years. They need to bottom out, stock top 3 draft picks and regroup.
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