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Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
- Abe Froman
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
I'm not opposed to moving Cousins. He's not part of the long term plan and it would be good to get the cap space and something in return for him.
I am not looking forward to going back to years of absolutely horseshit Quarterbacking...
I am not looking forward to going back to years of absolutely horseshit Quarterbacking...
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
Pssst. It will help you when you realize you are debating with a bit and therefore, reason, logic etc, is futile. Why waste your breath?Slap Shot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:29 pmAnswer the questions - how many teams have won 2 playoff games in row with a 30th ranked defense and an ass HC just for starters?Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:58 pmDid they have the 30th ranked defense in 2018 when he took them to a glorious 8-7-1? That defense was ranked in the top 5.Slap Shot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:41 pm
Bullshit. You claim he needs perfection so let me ask:
How many teams have won 2 playoff games in row with a 30th ranked defense and an ass HC just for starters?
Or a team with a revolving door at OC and a shit OL?
Or a defense that can't stop anyone after the 2 minute warning and has never had a FG kicker worth a shit?
Perfection? jfc how about just the bare minimum?
jfc not one of you have made a logical and contextual argument against him, just emotional and over reactionary.
This isn't his first year here. Almost half a decade. He is who we thought he was. A loser.
Or a team with a revolving door at OC and a shit OL?
Or a defense that can't stop anyone after the 2 minute warning and has never had a FG kicker worth a shit?
Perfection? jfc how about just the bare minimum?
While in MN: 68.9%, 116 TD, 32 INT, 15,519 YDS, 7.7 AVE, 104.2 RTG
But yeah you have that 1 season.
One thing we havent maybe talked enough about is the revolving coordinators for this guy. He is what he is, and has flaws, but man, between the guy being acquired by a GM moronic enough to place a poor pocket savvy/aware good qb in front of a terrible OL 3 years straight is bad enough, but look at how many OC's he has had in his career. Its preposterous.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
1st rounder in play?
It's been 32 years since one of MN's four major sports teams has been to the Championship/Superbowl.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
Every single year is failure until we win one. 4 teams, 32 years. That's roughly 128 consecutive failed seasons.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
RT says Mond is the real deal so no worries about that Abe!Abe Froman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:04 pm I'm not opposed to moving Cousins. He's not part of the long term plan and it would be good to get the cap space and something in return for him.
I am not looking forward to going back to years of absolutely horseshit Quarterbacking...
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
JFC, this might be a way that Spielman can save his ass and live for another season. Maybe he can pull off one of his fleecings of another team and actually get a first round draft pick for KDC. He was able to sucker Seattle into giving them a first rounder for Harvin. Maybe he can do it again!
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
I think Mond has a legit shot at becoming a good QB in the league, but he seems VERY raw. He's gonna need more time to marinate before he's ready to start.Hornets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pmRT says Mond is the real deal so no worries about that Abe!Abe Froman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:04 pm I'm not opposed to moving Cousins. He's not part of the long term plan and it would be good to get the cap space and something in return for him.
I am not looking forward to going back to years of absolutely horseshit Quarterbacking...
I made this!
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
His Mond Boner went away when he heard he wasn't vaxxed. His "of course it's the white guys on the team unvaccinated" take took a shit and he wasn't happy. Stay wokeHornets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:07 pmRT says Mond is the real deal so no worries about that Abe!Abe Froman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:04 pm I'm not opposed to moving Cousins. He's not part of the long term plan and it would be good to get the cap space and something in return for him.
I am not looking forward to going back to years of absolutely horseshit Quarterbacking...
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
Minnesota fans want a QB who is kind of a running back but can’t really pass but might get good some day.whiskerbiscuit wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:13 amAnother NFL team would absolutely pay Kirk what he's owed and he actually took less money to come here.Da Gas Man wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:46 am I know Vikings fans like to think that Kirk is great and they show stats to back them up but the rest of the league has watched Kirk for almost a decade. They know he is a very good QB who gets rattled in the big moments. And most importantly, he is very expensive.
Why wouldn't they just draft a QB next year? Unless they are thinking about having Kirk come for one year but why would Kirk agree to that?
I find it very odd that Pittsburgh would be interested in Kirk. Carr is cheaper, younger, and maybe better. Certainly more mobile although that's not saying much.
Say you want about Kirk, a bunch of teams would be happy to have him over their other options.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
I read the article. It also mentions Wilson and Rodgers. It’s just an article where a reporter looks at what could be available in FA/draft/trade. There’s nothing that says the Steelers are interested in Cousins. It’s just a possibility since the Vikings could be in rebuild mode and Cousins has a year left.
https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/32945/if-ben-roethlisberger-retires-whos-the-next-pittsburgh-steelers-quarterback?platform=amp
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https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/32945/if-ben-roethlisberger-retires-whos-the-next-pittsburgh-steelers-quarterback?platform=amp
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
I want a QB that win a Super Bowl. That should be the goal. Period.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:30 pmMinnesota fans want a QB who is kind of a running back but can’t really pass but might get good some day.whiskerbiscuit wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:13 amAnother NFL team would absolutely pay Kirk what he's owed and he actually took less money to come here.Da Gas Man wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:46 am I know Vikings fans like to think that Kirk is great and they show stats to back them up but the rest of the league has watched Kirk for almost a decade. They know he is a very good QB who gets rattled in the big moments. And most importantly, he is very expensive.
Why wouldn't they just draft a QB next year? Unless they are thinking about having Kirk come for one year but why would Kirk agree to that?
I find it very odd that Pittsburgh would be interested in Kirk. Carr is cheaper, younger, and maybe better. Certainly more mobile although that's not saying much.
Say you want about Kirk, a bunch of teams would be happy to have him over their other options.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
A market for QBs like this was obviously established last year with the Stafford and Wentz trades, where both teams got actual good returns. (Even if you isolate the added bonus that Det got for taking back Goff, they still got a very good return for Stafford alone.)
You cannot deny that.
Who knows if that will trickle over into this year as well (remember it is a weak QB draft), but I have a hard time believing that there wouldn't be some interest.
You cannot deny that.
Who knows if that will trickle over into this year as well (remember it is a weak QB draft), but I have a hard time believing that there wouldn't be some interest.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
there's going to be a market. are the vikings ready to deal will be the question.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
Depends on if we still have Rick Spielman. He isn't gonna trade Cousins away. If he leaves there might be a chance, but the next guy might think he can make lemonade as well.weimy froob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:38 am there's going to be a market. are the vikings ready to deal will be the question.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
No QB is winning a SB with this roster and coaching staff, and possibly the GM too.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:01 amI want a QB that win a Super Bowl. That should be the goal. Period.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:30 pmMinnesota fans want a QB who is kind of a running back but can’t really pass but might get good some day.whiskerbiscuit wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:13 am
Another NFL team would absolutely pay Kirk what he's owed and he actually took less money to come here.
Say you want about Kirk, a bunch of teams would be happy to have him over their other options.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
You first need a coach that has the right stuff. Without that the QB means Dick.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:01 amI want a QB that win a Super Bowl. That should be the goal. Period.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:30 pmMinnesota fans want a QB who is kind of a running back but can’t really pass but might get good some day.whiskerbiscuit wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:13 am
Another NFL team would absolutely pay Kirk what he's owed and he actually took less money to come here.
Say you want about Kirk, a bunch of teams would be happy to have him over their other options.
Hell- Jeff Hostetler, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer win SBs as did others who were not any better than we have.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
Agreed. They can all go. QB, HC & GM. No one in that trio is getting going to get it done.Slap Shot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:16 pmNo QB is winning a SB with this roster and coaching staff, and possibly the GM too.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:01 amI want a QB that win a Super Bowl. That should be the goal. Period.PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:30 pm
Minnesota fans want a QB who is kind of a running back but can’t really pass but might get good some day.
Let's get Tropical
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
Yeah, Cousins would not be a good fit in Pittsburg. If he were to get traded I'm thinking of teams like the Broncos, Texans, Dolphins, and maybe even Browns. I think he'll finish his contract in MN, though.BlackDog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:40 pm I read the article. It also mentions Wilson and Rodgers. It’s just an article where a reporter looks at what could be available in FA/draft/trade. There’s nothing that says the Steelers are interested in Cousins. It’s just a possibility since the Vikings could be in rebuild mode and Cousins has a year left.
https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-st ... atform=amp
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I think Rodgers would definitely want to play for Pitt, but I don't they would take on that contract given his age/money. Wilson makes the most sense imo.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
I would bet Rodgers goes to a big market team where he could revive a franchise similar to what big stars do when they go to the Lakers in basketball.ForCaleb wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:39 pmYeah, Cousins would not be a good fit in Pittsburg. If he were to get traded I'm thinking of teams like the Broncos, Texans, Dolphins, and maybe even Browns. I think he'll finish his contract in MN, though.BlackDog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:40 pm I read the article. It also mentions Wilson and Rodgers. It’s just an article where a reporter looks at what could be available in FA/draft/trade. There’s nothing that says the Steelers are interested in Cousins. It’s just a possibility since the Vikings could be in rebuild mode and Cousins has a year left.
https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-st ... atform=amp
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I think Rodgers would definitely want to play for Pitt, but I don't they would take on that contract given his age/money. Wilson makes the most sense imo.
I could see him going to
Miami
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Los Angeles Rams
I’m not even sure he would go to a cold weather team.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
If you read the article, you’ll see the cap hits for any an she identified for a trade. Cousins has the most expensive cap hit out of all the trades possibilities. A team would have to be crazy to take that hit when Wilson is way less.ForCaleb wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:39 pmYeah, Cousins would not be a good fit in Pittsburg. If he were to get traded I'm thinking of teams like the Broncos, Texans, Dolphins, and maybe even Browns. I think he'll finish his contract in MN, though.BlackDog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:40 pm I read the article. It also mentions Wilson and Rodgers. It’s just an article where a reporter looks at what could be available in FA/draft/trade. There’s nothing that says the Steelers are interested in Cousins. It’s just a possibility since the Vikings could be in rebuild mode and Cousins has a year left.
https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-st ... atform=amp
Not happening
I think Rodgers would definitely want to play for Pitt, but I don't they would take on that contract given his age/money. Wilson makes the most sense imo.
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Re: Steelers might be auditioning Cousins for next season!
Well lots of people said it was crazy that we offered him a fully guaranteed 3 year 84 million dollar contract yet the Jets reportedly offered over 90 million. Some team would be crazy enough if that’s what it took.BlackDog wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:13 pmIf you read the article, you’ll see the cap hits for any an she identified for a trade. Cousins has the most expensive cap hit out of all the trades possibilities. A team would have to be crazy to take that hit when Wilson is way less.ForCaleb wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:39 pmYeah, Cousins would not be a good fit in Pittsburg. If he were to get traded I'm thinking of teams like the Broncos, Texans, Dolphins, and maybe even Browns. I think he'll finish his contract in MN, though.BlackDog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:40 pm I read the article. It also mentions Wilson and Rodgers. It’s just an article where a reporter looks at what could be available in FA/draft/trade. There’s nothing that says the Steelers are interested in Cousins. It’s just a possibility since the Vikings could be in rebuild mode and Cousins has a year left.
https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-st ... atform=amp
Not happening
I think Rodgers would definitely want to play for Pitt, but I don't they would take on that contract given his age/money. Wilson makes the most sense imo.