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Please trade Cousins and 1st round pick to Dallas for a 7th (to alleviate Kirks massive cap hit in 2021 of $45 mil)
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Please trade Cousins and 1st round pick to Dallas for a 7th (to alleviate Kirks massive cap hit in 2021 of $45 mil)
Started this thread as a joke, no unfortunately may be the best option for us, although no GM in the league should be dumb enough to do it..
I think the Broncos did this with Osweiler to Cleveland a few years back. Our antivenom pill.
I think the Broncos did this with Osweiler to Cleveland a few years back. Our antivenom pill.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Considering we don't have a 2021 2nd rd pick, that will be a difficult trade to pull off. Not to mention, ah yea, it being ridiculous and stuff.
PS RS would require two 7th rd picks over a 6th.
PS RS would require two 7th rd picks over a 6th.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Wishful thinking. Why in earth would this happen? And who would we have play QB?
In Kwesi we trust.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Wishful thinking?PurpleFloyd wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:52 am Wishful thinking. Why in earth would this happen? And who would we have play QB?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
They're giving up on Burrows who has thrown for 5 tds and 0 picks in the last two games already
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Could we trade straight up for Tom Brady?
If we could get a first for Cousins it would save this entire organization. Package that first with our other one and maybe a future one to move to the top of the draft. You know we won't tank. We will be just bad enough to pick like #3 and then take a corner or some overrated lineman.
I would trade Cousins for a 7th rounder if it would free us of his contract. This season is done anyway. Just start Mannion and try to lose it all.
Maybe someone will lose their starter and get desperate like we were when we traded the farm for Bradford?
If we could get a first for Cousins it would save this entire organization. Package that first with our other one and maybe a future one to move to the top of the draft. You know we won't tank. We will be just bad enough to pick like #3 and then take a corner or some overrated lineman.
I would trade Cousins for a 7th rounder if it would free us of his contract. This season is done anyway. Just start Mannion and try to lose it all.
Maybe someone will lose their starter and get desperate like we were when we traded the farm for Bradford?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Trade a massively overpaid QB to a team that just drafted their franchise. Sounds like a bold move. I like it!
Let's get Tropical
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
If we're going along with this, it's actually a young team using cap space in order to acquire a premium asset.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am Trade a massively overpaid QB to a team that just drafted their franchise. Sounds like a bold move. I like it!
Happens all the time in the NBA.
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A Iverson, K Irving
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Which part is the premium asset?Oriole81 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:42 amIf we're going along with this, it's actually a young team using cap space in order to acquire a premium asset.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am Trade a massively overpaid QB to a team that just drafted their franchise. Sounds like a bold move. I like it!
Happens all the time in the NBA.
And if we're going to go along with this, the Jets would make more sense since their QB sucks. Although they're in the running for Lawrence too.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
2nd rd draft pick is still a pretty nice asset.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:44 amWhich part is the premium asset?Oriole81 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:42 amIf we're going along with this, it's actually a young team using cap space in order to acquire a premium asset.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am Trade a massively overpaid QB to a team that just drafted their franchise. Sounds like a bold move. I like it!
Happens all the time in the NBA.
And if we're going to go along with this, the Jets would make more sense since their QB sucks. Although they're in the running for Lawrence too.
Disregard for now the fact that we don't even own our 2nd rd pick next year. This isn't my thread so I'm just going along with it, but in this scenario a team that doesn't even want to play Cousins could still be interested just to get the pick.
2020 All Time NBA Draft
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D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
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T Duncan, B McAdoo
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Embarrassing thread.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Can we also trade Cook and Everson Griffin to the Cowboys for Everson Griffin and a sheet of acid? Maybe they throw in a couple extra Griffins?jffl_commish wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am Trade a massively overpaid QB to a team that just drafted their franchise. Sounds like a bold move. I like it!
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Trader Rick wouldn't do it cuz he likes 7th round picks
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Would the 49ers be willing to do something like:
After this season -
Cousins, our 2021 3rd (should be early) and 2020 2nd for a 7th.
Effectively, you are paying a 3rd and 2nd to get that much cap of our books and they would cut JimmyG (small dead cap for them 2.8) and effectively pay that money (and a little more) to Cousins.
Simply, it's basically selling a 3rd and 2nd for cash/cap space. Would a team like the 49ers who see Kirk as a slight upgrade to JimmyG see that as a worthwhile cost for some relatively high draft picks?
After this season -
Cousins, our 2021 3rd (should be early) and 2020 2nd for a 7th.
Effectively, you are paying a 3rd and 2nd to get that much cap of our books and they would cut JimmyG (small dead cap for them 2.8) and effectively pay that money (and a little more) to Cousins.
Simply, it's basically selling a 3rd and 2nd for cash/cap space. Would a team like the 49ers who see Kirk as a slight upgrade to JimmyG see that as a worthwhile cost for some relatively high draft picks?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Could they throw in Burrow for us as well?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
JFC, Purp. chat is going down hill!
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Yes. Niners and Rams would LOVE to have Kirk.Da Gas Man wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:45 pm Would the 49ers be willing to do something like:
After this season -
Cousins, our 2021 3rd (should be early) and 2020 2nd for a 7th.
Effectively, you are paying a 3rd and 2nd to get that much cap of our books and they would cut JimmyG (small dead cap for them 2.8) and effectively pay that money (and a little more) to Cousins.
Simply, it's basically selling a 3rd and 2nd for cash/cap space. Would a team like the 49ers who see Kirk as a slight upgrade to JimmyG see that as a worthwhile cost for some relatively high draft picks?
Better deal him before GB puts Rodgers on the market.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Obviously they wouldn’t love to have Kirk. I’m asking if giving them to relatively high draft picks, gets them past their qualms.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:38 pmYes. Niners and Rams would LOVE to have Kirk.Da Gas Man wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:45 pm Would the 49ers be willing to do something like:
After this season -
Cousins, our 2021 3rd (should be early) and 2020 2nd for a 7th.
Effectively, you are paying a 3rd and 2nd to get that much cap of our books and they would cut JimmyG (small dead cap for them 2.8) and effectively pay that money (and a little more) to Cousins.
Simply, it's basically selling a 3rd and 2nd for cash/cap space. Would a team like the 49ers who see Kirk as a slight upgrade to JimmyG see that as a worthwhile cost for some relatively high draft picks?
Better deal him before GB puts Rodgers on the market.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Oh bro o read that wrong. We would not have to attach picks. We will be the one getting picks.Da Gas Man wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:07 pmObviously they wouldn’t love to have Kirk. I’m asking if giving them to relatively high draft picks, gets them past their qualms.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:38 pmYes. Niners and Rams would LOVE to have Kirk.Da Gas Man wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:45 pm Would the 49ers be willing to do something like:
After this season -
Cousins, our 2021 3rd (should be early) and 2020 2nd for a 7th.
Effectively, you are paying a 3rd and 2nd to get that much cap of our books and they would cut JimmyG (small dead cap for them 2.8) and effectively pay that money (and a little more) to Cousins.
Simply, it's basically selling a 3rd and 2nd for cash/cap space. Would a team like the 49ers who see Kirk as a slight upgrade to JimmyG see that as a worthwhile cost for some relatively high draft picks?
Better deal him before GB puts Rodgers on the market.
Kirks is worth a 2nd rounder EASY.
Doesn't he have a no trade clause though?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Why would the Bengals even remotely consider doing this?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
This might just be the dumbest fucking thread ever here. Good God.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Apparently the OP agrees:hategreenticemase wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:26 pm This might just be the dumbest fucking thread ever here. Good God.
Original - Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
New edit - Vikes trade Cousins And 2022 2nd and 3rd to SF for 6th round pick
I think a better trade would be Bisi Johnson and a 6th for Deandre Hopkins! Then we'll trade Samia for 3 1st rounders.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
Bisi trade does nothing for our cap issues since he signed a 4 year deal at $648K/yr - please try to stay on topic.Why Not Us wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:31 pmApparently the OP agrees:hategreenticemase wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:26 pm This might just be the dumbest fucking thread ever here. Good God.
Original - Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
New edit - Vikes trade Cousins And 2022 2nd and 3rd to SF for 6th round pick
I think a better trade would be Bisi Johnson and a 6th for Deandre Hopkins! Then we'll trade Samia for 3 1st rounders.
Gardner Minshew needs Kirk to look at the film, see what’s going on. Help Rick out, throw some ideas at the wall, be a team player.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
This place has been a fucking cesspool for several weeks now. This preposterous thread, a "tanking thread" started in the 2nd fucking week of the season and fuckstix legitimately disappointed the purple won a game. In mothereffing September.Why Not Us wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:31 pmApparently the OP agrees:hategreenticemase wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:26 pm This might just be the dumbest fucking thread ever here. Good God.
Original - Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 2nd to Bengals for 6th round pick
New edit - Vikes trade Cousins And 2022 2nd and 3rd to SF for 6th round pick
I think a better trade would be Bisi Johnson and a 6th for Deandre Hopkins! Then we'll trade Samia for 3 1st rounders.
Absolutely can't make this place up.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 3rd, 4th to Jags for 6th round pick
The title got changed to the Jags. That alone is dumb as they are in full rebuild. The Bengals would be absurdly stupid as they just drafted their franchise QB and he looks like the real deal.
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 3rd, 4th to Jags for 6th round pick
Kirk Cousins cannot be traded! The cap hit is too high for at least this year and next! People need to get this through their heads!!!
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 3rd, 4th to Jags for 6th round pick
Are we sure on that?Sidewinder2k2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:01 pm Kirk Cousins cannot be traded! The cap hit is too high for at least this year and next! People need to get this through their heads!!!
If we trade him, his 2021 base salary is paid by the new team. That $21M should hit their cap, right?
That would mean the only thing that would hit our cap is the other portion of the signing bonus that we paid out that hasn't hit our books yet, which is $20M. Thus I calculate the cap hit for us at $20M if we trade him, not the entire $41M that we would take on if we cut him.
$20M dead cap hit is affordable for one season.
Is that right?
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A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 3rd, 4th to Jags for 6th round pick
That is still a massive hit. Especially with us having been up against it the last couple years.Oriole81 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:10 pmAre we sure on that?Sidewinder2k2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:01 pm Kirk Cousins cannot be traded! The cap hit is too high for at least this year and next! People need to get this through their heads!!!
If we trade him, his 2021 base salary is paid by the new team. That $21M should hit their cap, right?
That would mean the only thing that would hit our cap is the other portion of the signing bonus that we paid out that hasn't hit our books yet, which is $20M. Thus I calculate the cap hit for us at $20M if we trade him, not the entire $41M that we would take on if we cut him.
$20M dead cap hit is affordable for one season.
Is that right?
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Re: Vikes trade Cousins And 2021 3rd, 4th to Jags for 6th round pick
On the roster next year he’s a $31M cap hit w/ $21M in real new money paid outSidewinder2k2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:34 pmThat is still a massive hit. Especially with us having been up against it the last couple years.Oriole81 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:10 pmAre we sure on that?Sidewinder2k2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:01 pm Kirk Cousins cannot be traded! The cap hit is too high for at least this year and next! People need to get this through their heads!!!
If we trade him, his 2021 base salary is paid by the new team. That $21M should hit their cap, right?
That would mean the only thing that would hit our cap is the other portion of the signing bonus that we paid out that hasn't hit our books yet, which is $20M. Thus I calculate the cap hit for us at $20M if we trade him, not the entire $41M that we would take on if we cut him.
$20M dead cap hit is affordable for one season.
Is that right?
Traded next year he’s a $20M cap hit w/ $0 in real new money paid out.
It’s still the better option.
2020 All Time NBA Draft
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis
A Iverson, K Irving
J Havlicek, M Ginobili, M Richmond
D Wilkins, B Bowen
T Duncan, B McAdoo
H Olajuwon, W Unseld, A Sabonis