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Is Grabbing the Front Collar the Same as Illegal Hands to the Face?

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Is Grabbing the Front Collar the Same as Illegal Hands to the Face?

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Well?
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That was a damn travesty. And bad enough they did it once to give the packers a TD but to do it twice when it was so obviously wrong is worth an investigation. Wrestling is more honest than this
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It's terrible, the bad refereeing is an epidemic. I mostly only watch the Vikes. Games are unwatchable due to blown calls, and some like this one change outcomes! It's a fucking joke!
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Booger McFarland was about to murder the refs on air lol.
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No

Refs handed GB a win
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That shit seriously reminded me of an NBA game. That's saying something.
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I switched between MNF and the NLDS until the Nats ran away with it.

I saw both of these calls live, as well as the non-call PI on the Packers' DB. The end of the game pissed me off as a fan. Obviously it didn't matter who won, because the winner would lead the division. That being said, the Lions got boned. Fuck the Packers. Fuck the Refs. Fuck the NFL and their cheese-dick sport. It's a farce at this point. They can't help pissing on their own balls.
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D_H wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:37 pm No

Refs handed GB a win
... again. And they'll keep doing it too as long as Rodgers is there.
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The irony, and it was very very subtle but it happened, is Bahktari actually put his hand on the De facemask briefly on that play.

The screaming that never ends here about GBay gets every call etc is of course nonsense by dummies. But man, last night was bad. The first one is bad enough, but the second one directly cost them the game. Pathetic.

The good news is, I think we can all feel better about Green Bay. They are nothing special. Not even close.
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In the pool report interview, referee Clete Blakeman said "prolonged" and "forceful" contact to the "head or neck area" creates the illegal use of hands foul. Trey Flowers flagged twice for the infraction in the fourth quarter.
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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 am The irony, and it was very very subtle but it happened, is Bahktari actually put his hand on the De facemask briefly on that play.

The screaming that never ends here about GBay gets every call etc is of course nonsense by dummies. But man, last night was bad. The first one is bad enough, but the second one directly cost them the game. Pathetic.

The good news is, I think we can all feel better about Green Bay. They are nothing special. Not even close.

I remember the last time you said that. Bwhahahahaha
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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 am The irony, and it was very very subtle but it happened, is Bahktari actually put his hand on the De facemask briefly on that play.

The screaming that never ends here about GBay gets every call etc is of course nonsense by dummies. But man, last night was bad. The first one is bad enough, but the second one directly cost them the game. Pathetic.

The good news is, I think we can all feel better about Green Bay. They are nothing special. Not even close.
I agree with your last point.

Packers don’t look like a team that’s going to run away with the division.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:16 am
hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 am The irony, and it was very very subtle but it happened, is Bahktari actually put his hand on the De facemask briefly on that play.

The screaming that never ends here about GBay gets every call etc is of course nonsense by dummies. But man, last night was bad. The first one is bad enough, but the second one directly cost them the game. Pathetic.

The good news is, I think we can all feel better about Green Bay. They are nothing special. Not even close.
I agree with your last point.

Packers don’t look like a team that’s going to run away with the division.
But put the packers and the refs together and no one can stop them.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:29 pm Booger McFarland was about to murder the refs on air lol.
That had to have been a career’s with of pent up frustration at offensive linemen spewing out of Booger when he saw what was happening. I’m sure he had flashbacks to his days as the rules continued to skew in favor of the offense year after year.


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Sorry Booger you can't grab the inside of a guys shoulder pads and throat punch a guy for an unlimited amount of time.

but but but he grazed his Flower's facemask in a still picture :lol:
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JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:02 am Sorry Booger you can't grab the inside of a guys shoulder pads and throat punch a guy for an unlimited amount of time.

but but but he grazed his Flower's facemask in a still picture :lol:
I got to be honest, Clark, the first thing I thought of right after those two plays was I envisioned your absolute giddiness after those two plays happened knowing that you were going to get to have some fun today, and I could not wait to see how you were going to play this one today. Good work fella, good work. :lol:
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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 am The irony, and it was very very subtle but it happened, is Bahktari actually put his hand on the De facemask briefly on that play.

The screaming that never ends here about GBay gets every call etc is of course nonsense by dummies. But man, last night was bad. The first one is bad enough, but the second one directly cost them the game. Pathetic.

The good news is, I think we can all feel better about Green Bay. They are nothing special. Not even close.
The first hands to the face happened on third down and extended the packers drive on which they scored a TD three plays later. It had as much, if not more, impact as any call of the game.

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Last night was the perfect example of what pisses me off the most about today's refs.

They're not calling what they see. They're calling what they think they see. There is overwhelming video proof that Flowers did not get his hands up into Baktiari's face, so they could not have seen the penalty. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, they might have seen Baktiari throw his head back which is what probably led to the calls, but they did not see the penalty for which they threw the flag as it clearly did not happen.

It really honestly doesn't bother me nearly as much when refs miss calls. They're not going to be perfect. However, they absolutely cannot call phantom penalties. To me, that's inexcusable.

NFL refs have always been pretty bad, but this year it's elevated to a whole 'nother level.
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Night Train wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:22 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:16 am
hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 am The irony, and it was very very subtle but it happened, is Bahktari actually put his hand on the De facemask briefly on that play.

The screaming that never ends here about GBay gets every call etc is of course nonsense by dummies. But man, last night was bad. The first one is bad enough, but the second one directly cost them the game. Pathetic.

The good news is, I think we can all feel better about Green Bay. They are nothing special. Not even close.
I agree with your last point.

Packers don’t look like a team that’s going to run away with the division.
But put the packers and the refs together and no one can stop them.
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hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am
JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:02 am Sorry Booger you can't grab the inside of a guys shoulder pads and throat punch a guy for an unlimited amount of time.

but but but he grazed his Flower's facemask in a still picture :lol:
I got to be honest, Clark, the first thing I thought of right after those two plays was I envisioned your absolute giddiness after those two plays happened knowing that you were going to get to have some fun today, and I could not wait to see how you were going to play this one today. Good work fella, good work. :lol:
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JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:19 am
hategreenticemase wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am
JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:02 am Sorry Booger you can't grab the inside of a guys shoulder pads and throat punch a guy for an unlimited amount of time.

but but but he grazed his Flower's facemask in a still picture :lol:
I got to be honest, Clark, the first thing I thought of right after those two plays was I envisioned your absolute giddiness after those two plays happened knowing that you were going to get to have some fun today, and I could not wait to see how you were going to play this one today. Good work fella, good work. :lol:
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Even the most delusional Packer fans have to admit they were gifted that win.
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Amazing how Viking fans scrutinize EVERY call in a Packer game but Packer fans rarely do that in a Viking game.

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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:39 am Even the most delusional Packer fans have to admit they were gifted that win.
They never will. For whatever reason, they think they are entitled to have wins gifted to them by the refs...
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JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 am Amazing how Viking fans scrutinize EVERY call in a Packer game but Packer rarely do that in a Viking game.

#insecuritychat
Says the guy lurking in Purple Chat trying to counter every officiating fuck up made in last night's game...
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JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 am Amazing how Viking fans scrutinize EVERY call in a Packer game but Packer rarely do that in a Viking game.

#insecuritychat
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JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 am Amazing how Viking fans scrutinize EVERY call in a Packer game but Packer fans rarely do that in a Viking game.

#insecuritychat
Because Packer fans don't realize how biased and easy they have it!
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:42 am
JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 am Amazing how Viking fans scrutinize EVERY call in a Packer game but Packer rarely do that in a Viking game.

#insecuritychat
Says the Packer fan who logs onto a Minnesota Sports based message forum daily.
Lurking? After 12 -13 years on Rube Chat. Good one.
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JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:32 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:42 am
JPM wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 am Amazing how Viking fans scrutinize EVERY call in a Packer game but Packer rarely do that in a Viking game.

#insecuritychat
Says the Packer fan who logs onto a Minnesota Sports based message forum daily.
Lurking? After 12 -13 years on Rube Chat. Good one.
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