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Kubiak the 2 TE guru-

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You can put that myth to rest now. Should have moved up and got another OL.

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Oscar wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:15 am Kubiak the 2 TE guru-

2014-Ravens
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Pitta 20, 301, 0

2015-Broncos with Peyton Manning
Daniels 46, 517, 3
Davis 20, 201, 0

2016
Green 22, 237, 1
Derby 16, 160, 0

You can put that myth to rest now. Should have moved up and got another OL.

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Still no concrete details, but Kevin Patra at NFL.com reports that it’s very team-friendly. Apparently we save $4M on the cap this year, Kyle gets a little more overall cash in guarantees, and it’s year to year after that with little guaranteed money going forward.

If so, that’s a very good deal for the Vikes.
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Imagine the outrage on here because the Vikings picked a good TE in the second round, who is 21! "OMG, we extend Rudolph, why did we draft Irv Smith?!"

Boobtube again with fake outrage because he sees a four year deal for 36 mil which Rudolph will never see the end of. People flip out over NFL contracts before seeing the real numbers. GUARANTEED MONEY/CAP HIT PER YEAR, that's all that bleeping matters. Fake outrage!

Now, regarding this year and all in -- yeah, they're trying to win a super bowl again... like they were trying last year. Will they get there? I feel less confident going into this year but they were pressing last year. This is the year we'll find out if Cousins can live up to the contract or not. If he does, great, let's see how far they can go. If he doesn't, Spielman/Zimmer likely gone, for sure Rick, Paton takes over and IMO the best strategy is to start trading / cutting anyone outside of Hunter/Thielen/Diggs and the young guys on rookie scale deals. Tank for 2020 and put yourself in a spot to get Trevor Lawrence.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:19 am Still no concrete details, but Kevin Patra at NFL.com reports that it’s very team-friendly. Apparently we save $4M on the cap this year, Kyle gets a little more overall cash in guarantees, and it’s year to year after that with little guaranteed money going forward.

If so, that’s a very good deal for the Vikes.
:clap: Fake outrage! 4 years 36 mil my god fire everyone now!
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Yeah if the numbers being reported are true, this is a good deal.

The “why did we draft Irv Smith” people obviously haven’t seen the track record of rookie TEs in the league and fail to understand the purpose of the draft anyway.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:28 am Yeah if the numbers being reported are true, this is a good deal.

The “why did we draft Irv Smith” people obviously haven’t seen the track record of rookie TEs in the league and fail to understand the purpose of the draft anyway.
And fails to understand the Kubiak offense and the fact that Irv and kyle have very different and complimentary skill sets.

I have been preaching this since draft day and it looks like the Vikings agree with me.
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Beef Supreme wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:30 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:28 am Yeah if the numbers being reported are true, this is a good deal.

The “why did we draft Irv Smith” people obviously haven’t seen the track record of rookie TEs in the league and fail to understand the purpose of the draft anyway.
And fails to understand the Kubiak offense and the fact that Irv and kyle have very different and complimentary skill sets.

I have been preaching this since draft day and it looks like the Vikings agree with me.
I pictured Irv Smith more in the Jared Cook role, YAC guy. Rudolph is a possession TE. Is this not the case? I can't say I've watched a lot of Irv Smith but these two are guys who can and will be on the field together. How hard is this for some fans to understand? And it was pick 50.
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I maybe in the minority but I like Rudy he's still only 29 still has game :naners:
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:41 am
Beef Supreme wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:30 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:28 am Yeah if the numbers being reported are true, this is a good deal.

The “why did we draft Irv Smith” people obviously haven’t seen the track record of rookie TEs in the league and fail to understand the purpose of the draft anyway.
And fails to understand the Kubiak offense and the fact that Irv and kyle have very different and complimentary skill sets.

I have been preaching this since draft day and it looks like the Vikings agree with me.
I pictured Irv Smith more in the Jared Cook role, YAC guy. Rudolph is a possession TE. Is this not the case? I can't say I've watched a lot of Irv Smith but these two are guys who can and will be on the field together. How hard is this for some fans to understand? And it was pick 50.
You're going to hate a heavy 2TE set offense. It's boring. We've seen that movie before. The Irv Smith pick was astonishingly bad.
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Small Hands wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:53 am
HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:41 am
Beef Supreme wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:30 am

And fails to understand the Kubiak offense and the fact that Irv and kyle have very different and complimentary skill sets.

I have been preaching this since draft day and it looks like the Vikings agree with me.
I pictured Irv Smith more in the Jared Cook role, YAC guy. Rudolph is a possession TE. Is this not the case? I can't say I've watched a lot of Irv Smith but these two are guys who can and will be on the field together. How hard is this for some fans to understand? And it was pick 50.
You're going to hate a heavy 2TE set offense. It's boring. We've seen that movie before. The Irv Smith pick was astonishingly bad.
We just need an option who can beat man coverage when the defense is spending all it's time scheming against Diggs and Thielen and Rudolph can't run by anyone.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:41 am
Beef Supreme wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:30 am
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:28 am Yeah if the numbers being reported are true, this is a good deal.

The “why did we draft Irv Smith” people obviously haven’t seen the track record of rookie TEs in the league and fail to understand the purpose of the draft anyway.
And fails to understand the Kubiak offense and the fact that Irv and kyle have very different and complimentary skill sets.

I have been preaching this since draft day and it looks like the Vikings agree with me.
I pictured Irv Smith more in the Jared Cook role, YAC guy. Rudolph is a possession TE. Is this not the case? I can't say I've watched a lot of Irv Smith but these two are guys who can and will be on the field together. How hard is this for some fans to understand? And it was pick 50.
Yes. And I see Kyle lined up as a traditional TE next to the tackle and set in motion occasionally. Irv will line up in the backfield and be set in motion a lot.
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Also, the people complaining about bringing back Rudolph would be the same people bitching when we struggle in the redZone this year.
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With Diggs, thielen, rudolph you have 3 of the better sets of hands in the league.

If Irv can create a bit of a mismatch and pull safety help because a LB cant run with him it opens things up.

I like it.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:23 am Imagine the outrage on here because the Vikings picked a good TE in the second round, who is 21! "OMG, we extend Rudolph, why did we draft Irv Smith?!"

Boobtube again with fake outrage because he sees a four year deal for 36 mil which Rudolph will never see the end of. People flip out over NFL contracts before seeing the real numbers. GUARANTEED MONEY/CAP HIT PER YEAR, that's all that bleeping matters. Fake outrage!

Now, regarding this year and all in -- yeah, they're trying to win a super bowl again... like they were trying last year. Will they get there? I feel less confident going into this year but they were pressing last year. This is the year we'll find out if Cousins can live up to the contract or not. If he does, great, let's see how far they can go. If he doesn't, Spielman/Zimmer likely gone, for sure Rick, Paton takes over and IMO the best strategy is to start trading / cutting anyone outside of Hunter/Thielen/Diggs and the young guys on rookie scale deals. Tank for 2020 and put yourself in a spot to get Trevor Lawrence.
Thanks for explaining to us how NFL contracts work. :thumbsup:

I'm just not a fan of this guy. He's been overpaid for year's and does nothing more than any veteran TE can do.
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Non-participants at Day 1 of Vikings minicamp: Irv Smith Jr, Tyler Conklin, David Morgan, Tashawn Bower, Mike Hughes, Reshard Cliett, Jordan Taylor and Jeff Badet. Minnesota down 3 TEs today.

Top 10 GM drafted a Glass Joe TE!

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Blarney wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:17 pmPity post.
Hah, thanks. My thread was actually first, but it’s all good.
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Oscar wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:50 am Non-participants at Day 1 of Vikings minicamp: Irv Smith Jr, Tyler Conklin, David Morgan, Tashawn Bower, Mike Hughes, Reshard Cliett, Jordan Taylor and Jeff Badet. Minnesota down 3 TEs today.

Top 10 GM drafted a Glass Joe TE!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Fire the TE coach and the training staff, three TEs out today? WTF!
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Does this mean that David Morgan isn't back after next year?
If not, offsets a good portion of Rudy's contract as I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan gets something similar to Ellison's 4 year $18M deal.
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Per a league source, Rudolph will receive $9.25 million fully guaranteed under the deal. The total guarantee (full guarantee plus injury guarantee) is $16.25 million. He’s getting $1.625 million more than the money he was already due to make, which included a base salary of $7.25 million. Rudolph’s 2020 salary of $7.375 million is guaranteed for injury. Beyond 2020, the deal has no guarantees.

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So which of the TE's ahead of Kyle would you rather have?
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twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:13 pm So which of the TE's ahead of Kyle would you rather have?

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Almost everyone on that list.
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All but maybe 2 or 3. Seems like a decent contract for all parties
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twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:28 pm All but maybe 2 or 3. Seems like a decent contract for all parties
What?!? Walker, Cook and Graham are about the only 3 on that list I take Rudolph over. All 3 of them can play just as good as him on any given year also.

At least Graham was once a stud. Rudy is a never has been. One of the most overrated players in franchise history.

We always have to have a overrated nice white guy on all our Minnesota teams though.

He replaces Greenway in that aspect.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:42 pm I am guessing that essentially, the team can get out of this deal after 2020.
Since they are saving $4 million this year. They will still have some dead cap space if they cut him after 2020. Need more details to be sure though. I am guessing they will have a 4-5 million dead cap space if they cut him after 2020.

Edit: Sounds like only 1st year is guaranteed so I think Ash is right. I was under impression 2nd year was guaranteed.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:32 pm
twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:28 pm All but maybe 2 or 3. Seems like a decent contract for all parties
What?!? Walker, Cook and Graham are about the only 3 on that list I take Rudolph over. All 3 of them can play just as good as him on any given year also.

At least Graham was once a stud. Rudy is a never has been. One of the most overrated players in franchise history.

We always have to have a overrated nice white guy on all our Minnesota teams though.

He replaces Greenway in that aspect.
Kyle Rudolph is a solid player, and has been for what, 7-8 years now? 29 going 30, this deal makes 100% sense given the offseason moves. You're over the top as usual on hate here.
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Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:32 pm
twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:28 pm All but maybe 2 or 3. Seems like a decent contract for all parties
What?!? Walker, Cook and Graham are about the only 3 on that list I take Rudolph over. All 3 of them can play just as good as him on any given year also.

At least Graham was once a stud. Rudy is a never has been. One of the most overrated players in franchise history.

We always have to have a overrated nice white guy on all our Minnesota teams though.

He replaces Greenway in that aspect.
Graham hasn't been anything like a stud for years. All those guys all make a lot more and most are older too.
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HeHateMe wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:54 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:32 pm
twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:28 pm All but maybe 2 or 3. Seems like a decent contract for all parties
What?!? Walker, Cook and Graham are about the only 3 on that list I take Rudolph over. All 3 of them can play just as good as him on any given year also.

At least Graham was once a stud. Rudy is a never has been. One of the most overrated players in franchise history.

We always have to have a overrated nice white guy on all our Minnesota teams though.

He replaces Greenway in that aspect.
Kyle Rudolph is a solid player, and has been for what, 7-8 years now? 29 going 30, this deal makes 100% sense given the offseason moves. You're over the top as usual on hate here.
I'm just talking shit. I mean, they are my real thoughts but I am not upset about this. :lol:

I'm fine with him back this year. I didn't expect him not on roster at this point. I just don't care for the extension and he was the first guy I wanted them to get rid of before FA.

I have extremely big expectations for this year and think we are the most talented roster in the league. This move doesn't change that. I just don't prefer it.

There are many others who have said they don't like it either in this thread.
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twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:59 pm
Sergeant Rubetube wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:32 pm
twgerber wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:28 pm All but maybe 2 or 3. Seems like a decent contract for all parties
What?!? Walker, Cook and Graham are about the only 3 on that list I take Rudolph over. All 3 of them can play just as good as him on any given year also.

At least Graham was once a stud. Rudy is a never has been. One of the most overrated players in franchise history.

We always have to have a overrated nice white guy on all our Minnesota teams though.

He replaces Greenway in that aspect.
Graham hasn't been anything like a stud for years. All those guys all make a lot more and most are older too.
You didn't ask about money and age. You sound asked who you would rather have.

You have him way overrated if you think he is better than most of that list.
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I'm pretty sure my girlfriend could tackle Rudolph in the open field and get around him on the edge. If you want a tall red zone guy, just go sign Moss.

Conservative move by the coaching staff and GM.
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