Kyle Rudolph signs extension

[Beef Supreme]

why do all the rudolph backers claim he is some sort of red zone threat.....he has 41 tds in 8 years hardly a big time td guy....His production could be accomplished by most tight ends given his targets and playing time...very average player

He’s 6-6 with a big wingspan and good hands.


How many TEs have more touchdowns than him on the last 8 years?

[HeHateMe]

why do all the rudolph backers claim he is some sort of red zone threat.....he has 41 tds in 8 years hardly a big time td guy....His production could be accomplished by most tight ends given his targets and playing time...very average player

He’s 6-6 with a big wingspan and good hands.


How many TEs have more touchdowns than him on the last 8 years?

This is exactly what I was going to ask....

[flexbuffchest]

why do all the rudolph backers claim he is some sort of red zone threat.....he has 41 tds in 8 years hardly a big time td guy....His production could be accomplished by most tight ends given his targets and playing time...very average player

He’s 6-6 with a big wingspan and good hands.


How many TEs have more touchdowns than him on the last 8 years?

3.

http://pfref.com/tiny/y4dpr

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[hategreenticemase]

why do all the rudolph backers claim he is some sort of red zone threat.....he has 41 tds in 8 years hardly a big time td guy....His production could be accomplished by most tight ends given his targets and playing time...very average player

He’s 6-6 with a big wingspan and good hands.


How many TEs have more touchdowns than him on the last 8 years?

3.

http://pfref.com/tiny/y4dpr

Gronk
Graham
Gates

Wait, Roobboobretard and the other dummies said he is mediocre at best and this is a horrible contract?

[Phrooster]

why do all the rudolph backers claim he is some sort of red zone threat.....he has 41 tds in 8 years hardly a big time td guy....His production could be accomplished by most tight ends given his targets and playing time...very average player

He’s 6-6 with a big wingspan and good hands.


How many TEs have more touchdowns than him on the last 8 years?

he's not flashy player kinda of a lunch Pail player doesn't make the high light film doesn't break the door down on rubes fantasy team a little unfavorable hatred by the rubes I think he plays well this year put the rookie in as the slot wr. I see opposing defenses having trouble covering

[Southpaw23]

Guys - isn't this basically a 1 year deal..

[twgerber]

Guys - isn't this basically a 1 year deal..

Probably two years due to the cap hit in 2020 if cut... but ya never know. No guaranteed money in 2020 except for injury

[mlhouse]

Guys - isn't this basically a 1 year deal..

Probably two years due to the cap hit in 2020 if cut... but ya never know. No guaranteed money in 2020 except for injury

If he is cut after 6/1 then the 2020 cap hit is only $1.450 million, the amortized portion of his signing bonus. Those numbers carry on as dead weight for two more years, but the hit is very manageable (if he is cut before 6/1 the cap absorbs all of the money in that year, which would be $5.8 million).

I think it is 50/50 if he plays the 2nd year of his deal. Lots of factors although I think there is a lot of room in the Vikings salary structures in 2020 to free up lots of cap.

[Butch Bradford]

If Irv Smith transitions well to the NFL, then yeah Rudy won't be for long.

[twgerber]

Guys - isn't this basically a 1 year deal..

Probably two years due to the cap hit in 2020 if cut... but ya never know. No guaranteed money in 2020 except for injury

If he is cut after 6/1 then the 2020 cap hit is only $1.450 million, the amortized portion of his signing bonus. Those numbers carry on as dead weight for two more years, but the hit is very manageable (if he is cut before 6/1 the cap absorbs all of the money in that year, which would be $5.8 million).

I think it is 50/50 if he plays the 2nd year of his deal. Lots of factors although I think there is a lot of room in the Vikings salary structures in 2020 to free up lots of cap.

Wasn't aware of the cap hits - thx.

[HeHateMe]

Probably two years due to the cap hit in 2020 if cut... but ya never know. No guaranteed money in 2020 except for injury

If he is cut after 6/1 then the 2020 cap hit is only $1.450 million, the amortized portion of his signing bonus. Those numbers carry on as dead weight for two more years, but the hit is very manageable (if he is cut before 6/1 the cap absorbs all of the money in that year, which would be $5.8 million).

I think it is 50/50 if he plays the 2nd year of his deal. Lots of factors although I think there is a lot of room in the Vikings salary structures in 2020 to free up lots of cap.

Wasn't aware of the cap hits - thx.

People in general, myself included, often don't understand the cap ramificiations for deals. Like Sergeant Rubetube earlier in the thread.. omg we just gave Rudolph 4 years 36 mil.... no, GDamnit NO! Wait for the people who get the actual numbers as far as guaranteed money and cap hit. That's all that matters.

[RubeTube]

If he is cut after 6/1 then the 2020 cap hit is only $1.450 million, the amortized portion of his signing bonus. Those numbers carry on as dead weight for two more years, but the hit is very manageable (if he is cut before 6/1 the cap absorbs all of the money in that year, which would be $5.8 million).

I think it is 50/50 if he plays the 2nd year of his deal. Lots of factors although I think there is a lot of room in the Vikings salary structures in 2020 to free up lots of cap.

Wasn't aware of the cap hits - thx.

People in general, myself included, often don't understand the cap ramificiations for deals. Like Sergeant Rubetube earlier in the thread.. omg we just gave Rudolph 4 years 36 mil.... no, GDamnit NO! Wait for the people who get the actual numbers as far as guaranteed money and cap hit. That's all that matters.

It still don't matter. It's just fucking dumb. I don't care what it ends up being. Of course NFL contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on in most cases.

It's still asinine this deal was even written up.

I was at a big party this weekend and this was quite the talker around the fire. Packer fans mocked and ridiculed it and I didn't defend it. Most the Vikings fans didn't even want to talk about it.

Then it turned into jokes of which one of us drunk could tackle Kyle if a gust of wind didn't do it before we could get a finger on his shoelace

I have no problem with him back here one more year now that they already screwed the pooch with him before FA. I never want to see him back here after this year though and I bet he is.

He should of been one of the first casualties with guy's like Sandejo etc....

We might have a quality WR 3 with that money.

His last contract was already a HUGE overpay at the time.

[Beef Supreme]

Wasn't aware of the cap hits - thx.

People in general, myself included, often don't understand the cap ramificiations for deals. Like Sergeant Rubetube earlier in the thread.. omg we just gave Rudolph 4 years 36 mil.... no, GDamnit NO! Wait for the people who get the actual numbers as far as guaranteed money and cap hit. That's all that matters.

It still don't matter. It's just fucking dumb. I don't care what it ends up being. Of course NFL contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on in most cases.

It's still asinine this deal was even written up.

I was at a big party this weekend and this was quite the talker around the fire. Packer fans mocked and ridiculed it and I didn't defend it. Most the Vikings fans didn't even want to talk about it.

Then it turned into jokes of which one of us drunk could tackle Kyle if a gust of wind didn't do it before we could get a finger on his shoelace

I have no problem with him back here one more year now that they already screwed the pooch with him before FA. I never want to see him back here after this year though and I bet he is.

He should of been one of the first casualties with guy's like Sandejo etc....

We might have a quality WR 3 with that money.

His last contract was already a HUGE overpay at the time.

Sounds like an awesome party.


And we might have our quality WR3 anyway. How much money do you want tied up in WRs on a team that wants to run and play defense?

[RubeTube]

People in general, myself included, often don't understand the cap ramificiations for deals. Like Sergeant Rubetube earlier in the thread.. omg we just gave Rudolph 4 years 36 mil.... no, GDamnit NO! Wait for the people who get the actual numbers as far as guaranteed money and cap hit. That's all that matters.

It still don't matter. It's just fucking dumb. I don't care what it ends up being. Of course NFL contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on in most cases.

It's still asinine this deal was even written up.

I was at a big party this weekend and this was quite the talker around the fire. Packer fans mocked and ridiculed it and I didn't defend it. Most the Vikings fans didn't even want to talk about it.

Then it turned into jokes of which one of us drunk could tackle Kyle if a gust of wind didn't do it before we could get a finger on his shoelace

I have no problem with him back here one more year now that they already screwed the pooch with him before FA. I never want to see him back here after this year though and I bet he is.

He should of been one of the first casualties with guy's like Sandejo etc....

We might have a quality WR 3 with that money.

His last contract was already a HUGE overpay at the time.

Sounds like an awesome party.


And we might have our quality WR3 anyway. How much money do you want tied up in WRs on a team that wants to run and play defense?

Let me guess, you are one of these Practice squad Beebe guy's?

[Beef Supreme]

It still don't matter. It's just fucking dumb. I don't care what it ends up being. Of course NFL contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on in most cases.

It's still asinine this deal was even written up.

I was at a big party this weekend and this was quite the talker around the fire. Packer fans mocked and ridiculed it and I didn't defend it. Most the Vikings fans didn't even want to talk about it.

Then it turned into jokes of which one of us drunk could tackle Kyle if a gust of wind didn't do it before we could get a finger on his shoelace

I have no problem with him back here one more year now that they already screwed the pooch with him before FA. I never want to see him back here after this year though and I bet he is.

He should of been one of the first casualties with guy's like Sandejo etc....

We might have a quality WR 3 with that money.

His last contract was already a HUGE overpay at the time.

Sounds like an awesome party.


And we might have our quality WR3 anyway. How much money do you want tied up in WRs on a team that wants to run and play defense?

Let me guess, you are one of these Practice squad Beebe guy's?

I know. Impossible that an undrafted WR could develop through the practice squad and become something useful.

Never happen. Certainly not here, anyway.

[RubeTube]

Sounds like an awesome party.


And we might have our quality WR3 anyway. How much money do you want tied up in WRs on a team that wants to run and play defense?

Let me guess, you are one of these Practice squad Beebe guy's?

I know. Impossible that an undrafted WR could develop through the practice squad and become something useful.

Never happen. Certainly not here, anyway.

Not saying it can't happen but let's wait and see. We have seen the guy play about a half of football.

Every WR has a chance here with the uncanny abilities of KDC. He sure isn't scared to "Spread it around"

[Beef Supreme]

Let me guess, you are one of these Practice squad Beebe guy's?

I know. Impossible that an undrafted WR could develop through the practice squad and become something useful.

Never happen. Certainly not here, anyway.

Not saying it can't happen but let's wait and see. We have seen the guy play about a half of football.

Every WR has a chance here with the uncanny abilities of KDC. He sure isn't scared to "Spread it around"

Right. I actually agree that cousins can be productive with mediocre WRs. See Washington for evidence. So why splurge for an expensive 3rd WR option?

[RubeTube]

I know. Impossible that an undrafted WR could develop through the practice squad and become something useful.

Never happen. Certainly not here, anyway.

Not saying it can't happen but let's wait and see. We have seen the guy play about a half of football.

Every WR has a chance here with the uncanny abilities of KDC. He sure isn't scared to "Spread it around"

Right. I actually agree that cousins can be productive with mediocre WRs. See Washington for evidence. So why splurge for an expensive 3rd WR option?

Why "Splurge" on a TE who does nothing that well?

I didn't say they had to get a great 3rd WR. I just need a guy who can catch a pass here and there.

If the Vikings struggle without Rudolph, they weren't going anywhere anyway.

#XsAndOs

[DonaldDouchebag]

Still pumped about retaining this game-changing weapon.

[Ash Ketchum]

Rudy is solid.

He’s not elite. There’s a handful of TEs who are so good (at the receiving half of the job) that they can consistently be targeted all over the field as a centerpiece to their respective offenses.

Rudolph is not quite on that level, but he’s in that next tier of guys who are very capable and sure-handed, just not dynamic and dangerous.

I would have been fine with getting rid of him at the beginning of the offseason to open up cap space to maybe bring in another lineman or a WR3, but at this point, I’m good with it.

[RubeTube]

Still pumped about retaining this game-changing weapon.

[RubeTube]

Good thing we extended this guy!

3 catches for 9 yards going into week 3.

[twgerber]

Good thing we extended this guy!

3 catches for 9 yards going into week 3.

His fault?

[cunningham]

Seems like Cousins was locked onto Diggs for some reason in GB. That pick he threw into triple coverage is the best example. Rudy was wide open on that play. Wasn't he targeted in the first game, but Cousins overthrew him in the endzone? Or was that last season?

[B-Town]

Per TWGerber, this was a good, team friendly signing, with no downside. Stay the course, guys. No reason to question anything or put down your pompoms.

[UnFadeable21]

Kyle is so slow and can’t break any tackles

[HeHateMe]

I saw Irv Smith Jr get a catch for negative yards last week. OUR TES FUCKIN SUCK!!!!