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Would the Vikings been better had they lost not Tied GB?

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Would the Vikings been better had they lost not Tied GB?

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How much different would the Vikings season have been had they not had the 4th quarter comeback and force the tie to GB?

Dalvin Cook does not get injured (he injured himself in OT). So he is healthy the next week against the Bills. They don't cut Carlson either.

The Vikings coming off a loss to GB but a healthy cook and not the kicker distraction (Would still probably have the Everson thing). But I don't think they come out flat against the Bills.So maybe they win.. so they are 2-1 and not 1-1-1 at that point.

Does Cook change the outcome on Thursday against the Rams? They probably still lose.

But now you have cook the rest of the year, and maybe they establish the run game more. If the run game is established maybe the line isn't as terrible. Maybe the pressure if off Cousins and he plays better in some late season games (Bears/Pats/Seahawks/Bears).

If they had lost to GB which would have meant they beat Bills they would have made the play-offs if every other game had same outcome. But Maybe Cook isn't a question Mark, the Line isn't as needy in the draft and they have their kicker for the next 5 years.
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Well they would have made the playoffs so......
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the daniel carlson situation turned into a fiasco. if you know now what you didn't know then-namely that you're not going to make the playoffs-you keep the kicker.
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No, because that means we would have lost to Green Bay.
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weimy froob wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:30 pm the daniel carlson situation turned into a fiasco. if you know now what you didn't know then-namely that you're not going to make the playoffs-you keep the kicker.
The draft selection of Daniel Carson really did have a negative affect on the season and this game was a disaster because DC was not ready for prime time. Forbath was good enough why did we need a new punter and kicker last year?
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Who knows... to assume the team wins against the Bills because they lost instead of a tie to the Packers.. what does it matter at this point? All Carlson had to do was kick a 35 yard field goal from straight away and they make the playoffs. I have zero problems with him not being the kicker going forward.

And yeah, he shouldn't have been the pick (that they traded up for).... more linemen!
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Had they lost we would have been eliminated from the playoffs a week ahead of time and that Chicago nightmare would have been meaningless.

I guess if they had lost we wouldn't have the image of Cousins and that iPad or watching our entire season deflate against a division rival's back ups.

Barr lost us a few games early too. He was totally exploited in a few games and I would put one or two losses at his feet.

Carlson and our kicking situation was a huge problem. Had Cousins just scored like we were paying him to do it isn't even put on the kickers back. The last kick I just sat and wondered why the hell we were kicking yet again when the kid was having a horrible day?
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cunningham wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:27 am Had they lost we would have been eliminated from the playoffs a week ahead of time and that Chicago nightmare would have been meaningless.

I guess if they had lost we wouldn't have the image of Cousins and that iPad or watching our entire season deflate against a division rival's back ups.

Barr lost us a few games early too. He was totally exploited in a few games and I would put one or two losses at his feet.

Carlson and our kicking situation was a huge problem. Had Cousins just scored like we were paying him to do it isn't even put on the kickers back. The last kick I just sat and wondered why the hell we were kicking yet again when the kid was having a horrible day?
Because regardless of how bad the kicker was previously, you have to let him try to win the game.
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Would the Vikings been better had they drafted Tom Brady? :clap: :clap: :clap: These "what if" threads are worse than feminism.
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JigglyPuff wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:09 pm Would the Vikings been better had they drafted Tom Brady? :clap: :clap: :clap: These "what if" threads are worse than feminism.
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Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am
cunningham wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:27 am Had they lost we would have been eliminated from the playoffs a week ahead of time and that Chicago nightmare would have been meaningless.

I guess if they had lost we wouldn't have the image of Cousins and that iPad or watching our entire season deflate against a division rival's back ups.

Barr lost us a few games early too. He was totally exploited in a few games and I would put one or two losses at his feet.

Carlson and our kicking situation was a huge problem. Had Cousins just scored like we were paying him to do it isn't even put on the kickers back. The last kick I just sat and wondered why the hell we were kicking yet again when the kid was having a horrible day?
Because regardless of how bad the kicker was previously, you have to let him try to win the game.
I know, but that was too many chances. Was there anyone who seriously thought he would make the last one? As a Vikings' fan I knew it would never go in. I would not have risked it. One of them if I remember right was a very short 4th down. Although, at that point in the season Defilippo was calling 20 yard pass plays on 3rd and short.
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cunningham wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:09 pm
Ash Ketchum wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 am
cunningham wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:27 am Had they lost we would have been eliminated from the playoffs a week ahead of time and that Chicago nightmare would have been meaningless.

I guess if they had lost we wouldn't have the image of Cousins and that iPad or watching our entire season deflate against a division rival's back ups.

Barr lost us a few games early too. He was totally exploited in a few games and I would put one or two losses at his feet.

Carlson and our kicking situation was a huge problem. Had Cousins just scored like we were paying him to do it isn't even put on the kickers back. The last kick I just sat and wondered why the hell we were kicking yet again when the kid was having a horrible day?
Because regardless of how bad the kicker was previously, you have to let him try to win the game.
I know, but that was too many chances. Was there anyone who seriously thought he would make the last one? As a Vikings' fan I knew it would never go in. I would not have risked it. One of them if I remember right was a very short 4th down. Although, at that point in the season Defilippo was calling 20 yard pass plays on 3rd and short.
The coaches would and should be fired on the spot if they went for it on 4th down there and didn’t convert.

Remember, they likely watched Carlson nail similar FGs with ease over and over in practice. It sucked that he missed, but it was the right call to let him try.
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