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***Official NFL Free Agency 2019***
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Time to get a running thread going.....
and Keenum heading to Washington before it starts next week?
and Keenum heading to Washington before it starts next week?
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I thought the Redskins were trading for Josh Rosen.
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Said it here before, it's a smokescreen. Cards are not trading Rosen. They want out of the #1 pick.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:25 pm I thought the Redskins were trading for Josh Rosen.
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Good thing the Redskins didn't keep Cousins.
They have now successfully traded for two lame duck QBs in the span of a year.
They have now successfully traded for two lame duck QBs in the span of a year.
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We'll see what happens. They need to fill seats and getting Antonio Brown and drafting Kyler Murray would do that.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:26 pmSaid it here before, it's a smokescreen. Cards are not trading Rosen. They want out of the #1 pick.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:25 pm I thought the Redskins were trading for Josh Rosen.
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Lol. Go read Redskins forums over this trade. They are not happy. Haha.
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The Redskins were a playoff team before Smith got hurt. One could argue the Vikings made a bad move on KC.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:27 pm Good thing the Redskins didn't keep Cousins.
They have now successfully traded for two lame duck QBs in the span of a year.
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Vikings need to sign Teddy to put pressure on Kirk to play better.
I remember for years, Spielman was afraid of bringing in a capable back up because he didn’t want to shake Ponder’s confidence.
I remember for years, Spielman was afraid of bringing in a capable back up because he didn’t want to shake Ponder’s confidence.
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Coulda, woulda, shouda.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:42 pmThe Redskins were a playoff team before Smith got hurt. One could argue the Vikings made a bad move on KC.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:27 pm Good thing the Redskins didn't keep Cousins.
They have now successfully traded for two lame duck QBs in the span of a year.
AP had them in that running. That team was never holding on to that spot.
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Ya that 14 tds to 9 int ratio that happened a half decade ago is sure to put "Heat" on Cousins.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:54 pm Vikings need to sign Teddy to put pressure on Kirk to play better.
I remember for years, Spielman was afraid of bringing in a capable back up because he didn’t want to shake Ponder’s confidence.
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Injuries are part of football. It was a good trade until the injury. That was a 10 win team. Vikings were an 8 win team without a major injury.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:57 pmCoulda, woulda, shouda.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:42 pmThe Redskins were a playoff team before Smith got hurt. One could argue the Vikings made a bad move on KC.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:27 pm Good thing the Redskins didn't keep Cousins.
They have now successfully traded for two lame duck QBs in the span of a year.
AP had them in that running. That team was never holding on to that spot.
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That wasn't a 10 win team. Stop playin yourself.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:09 pmInjuries are part of football. It was a good trade until the injury. That was a 10 win team. Vikings were an 8 win team without a major injury.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:57 pmCoulda, woulda, shouda.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:42 pm
The Redskins were a playoff team before Smith got hurt. One could argue the Vikings made a bad move on KC.
AP had them in that running. That team was never holding on to that spot.
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Either way, no one can prove what they would of been. Their 34 year old QB went down and now they are tradng for trash keenum.
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That guy went 11-5 and won us a NFC north crown and a playoff win except for Walsh choking on the 17 yard lineSergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:58 pmYa that 14 tds to 9 int ratio that happened a half decade ago is sure to put "Heat" on Cousins.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:54 pm Vikings need to sign Teddy to put pressure on Kirk to play better.
I remember for years, Spielman was afraid of bringing in a capable back up because he didn’t want to shake Ponder’s confidence.
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The Cardinals are absolutely taking Kyler Murray.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:26 pmSaid it here before, it's a smokescreen. Cards are not trading Rosen. They want out of the #1 pick.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:25 pm I thought the Redskins were trading for Josh Rosen.
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Jesus Christ.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:13 pmThat guy went 11-5 and won us a NFC north crown and a playoff win except for Walsh choking on the 17 yard lineSergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:58 pmYa that 14 tds to 9 int ratio that happened a half decade ago is sure to put "Heat" on Cousins.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:54 pm Vikings need to sign Teddy to put pressure on Kirk to play better.
I remember for years, Spielman was afraid of bringing in a capable back up because he didn’t want to shake Ponder’s confidence.
Stop.
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It was a half decade ago. He hasn't played since!UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:13 pmThat guy went 11-5 and won us a NFC north crown and a playoff win except for Walsh choking on the 17 yard lineSergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:58 pmYa that 14 tds to 9 int ratio that happened a half decade ago is sure to put "Heat" on Cousins.UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:54 pm Vikings need to sign Teddy to put pressure on Kirk to play better.
I remember for years, Spielman was afraid of bringing in a capable back up because he didn’t want to shake Ponder’s confidence.
He turned around and handed the ball to the #1 rb that year.
Kirk with AP that year would of been money.
Teddy was 10/19 for 99 yds 0tds and 1int. In the game they needed to win the division
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Saying that Teddy went 11-5 is the single dumbest logic I’ve ever heard.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:17 pmIt was a half decade ago. He hasn't played since!UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:13 pmThat guy went 11-5 and won us a NFC north crown and a playoff win except for Walsh choking on the 17 yard lineSergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:58 pm
Ya that 14 tds to 9 int ratio that happened a half decade ago is sure to put "Heat" on Cousins.
He turned around and handed the ball to the #1 rb that year.
Kirk with AP that year would of been money.
Teddy was 10/19 for 99 yds 0tds and 1int. In the game they needed to win the division
You literally have to believe Dilfer and Flacco are better than Marino if you go with that.
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Yep.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:19 pmSaying that Teddy went 11-5 is the single dumbest logic I’ve ever heard.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:17 pmIt was a half decade ago. He hasn't played since!UnFadeable21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:13 pm
That guy went 11-5 and won us a NFC north crown and a playoff win except for Walsh choking on the 17 yard line
He turned around and handed the ball to the #1 rb that year.
Kirk with AP that year would of been money.
Teddy was 10/19 for 99 yds 0tds and 1int. In the game they needed to win the division
You literally have to believe Dilfer and Flacco are better than Marino if you go with that.
AP was also one of the greatest RBs who has ever lived.
It's all Kirks fault even though we had a absolutely ATROCIOUS running game last year. Nobody talks about that.
There are still delusions here that Cook can be just as good. I like Cook. Absolutely loved that pick but he hasn't done anything yet and he's going into year 3.
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When a team invests 28 million into a QB, he should win more than 8 games. He had plenty of opportunities to win 1 or 2 more games. The record on Monday nights and vs winnings teams is a concern.
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I'll bet money the Cardinals don't draft Murray. He came out of the combine with tons of red flags.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:16 pmThe Cardinals are absolutely taking Kyler Murray.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:25 pm I thought the Redskins were trading for Josh Rosen.
Said it here before, it's a smokescreen. Cards are not trading Rosen. They want out of the #1 pick.
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$100?DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:29 pmI'll bet money the Cardinals don't draft Murray. He came out of the combine with tons of red flags.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:16 pmThe Cardinals are absolutely taking Kyler Murray.The Replacements wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:25 pm I thought the Redskins were trading for Josh Rosen.
Said it here before, it's a smokescreen. Cards are not trading Rosen. They want out of the #1 pick.
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Why are you so confident? Casselry said a lot of teams weren't impressed. He certainly didn't cement himself as the #1 pick.
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I agree that the "Against winning teams" needs to get better. Put a good team around him and I think it will.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:28 pm When a team invests 28 million into a QB, he should win more than 8 games. He had plenty of opportunities to win 1 or 2 more games. The record on Monday nights and vs winnings teams is a concern.
I will get the torches out if it happens again. I believe he played well in 2018 though and we will have a bounce back season in 2019.
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I could make the same argument for Keenum. And many other QBs. Yet Cousins (who's never won a damn thing) gets an 84 million dollar contract. And now the Vikings have to "put a good team around him" I'm just not seeing it the way you are.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:59 pmI agree that the "Against winning teams" needs to get better. Put a good team around him and I think it will.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:28 pm When a team invests 28 million into a QB, he should win more than 8 games. He had plenty of opportunities to win 1 or 2 more games. The record on Monday nights and vs winnings teams is a concern.
I will get the torches out if it happens again. I believe he played well in 2018 though and we will have a bounce back season in 2019.
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The only RB that ever came back the same the next year is the child beater. Expecting that Cook was coming back last year as the same guy we drafted was just foolish. Running the same damn running play right up the middle where our line sucked was a legit in season fireable offense.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:23 pmYep.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:19 pmSaying that Teddy went 11-5 is the single dumbest logic I’ve ever heard.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:17 pm
It was a half decade ago. He hasn't played since!
He turned around and handed the ball to the #1 rb that year.
Kirk with AP that year would of been money.
Teddy was 10/19 for 99 yds 0tds and 1int. In the game they needed to win the division
You literally have to believe Dilfer and Flacco are better than Marino if you go with that.
AP was also one of the greatest RBs who has ever lived.
It's all Kirks fault even though we had a absolutely ATROCIOUS running game last year. Nobody talks about that.
There are still delusions here that Cook can be just as good. I like Cook. Absolutely loved that pick but he hasn't done anything yet and he's going into year 3.
And it is very true that just saying Teddy got us this record is foolish. Peterson was nasty and so was the D. All he had to do was limit mistakes, run for an occasional first down and he did. Cousins had to do a ton more with a nasty rush coming because we couldn't run and never changed one thing about our play calling after week 3. Cousins on that Teddy team wins more. A healthy Teddy on last year's team might win more getting away from the rush. The NFL above all other things is a team game. One weakness can fuck up 5 things. One strength like avoiding a rusher can fix 5 things. (Case did that) Do people really think our line just got way worse? Our QB got less mobile and our run play calling sucked.
If your strengths can't mask you weaknesses you don't win. Pats don't win because they are best at anything. They have the fewest weaknesses and make the fewest mistakes.
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Regardless if the player is an average starter and lost for the year, it still counts as a major injury. I'm talking about Easton, he was a decent LG and was lost before the season. Not to mention Elflein wasn't healthy for most of the year. Everson Griffen wasn't a major loss? Sandejo was placed on IR. Rhodes also was playing injured for a lot of games.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:09 pmInjuries are part of football. It was a good trade until the injury. That was a 10 win team. Vikings were an 8 win team without a major injury.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:57 pmCoulda, woulda, shouda.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:42 pm
The Redskins were a playoff team before Smith got hurt. One could argue the Vikings made a bad move on KC.
AP had them in that running. That team was never holding on to that spot.
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Every team has injuries but to lose Sparano before the season was beyond devastating to a unit that was below average going into the season. I can't stress how devastating his loss was.
When you say this team had no major injuries, I will respond with "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MORON!" haha I mean seriously.
At least the Vikings didn't lose their starting QB for the entire year for a third consecutive year.
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Should have been WAY more booing from the home crowd imo. You have to drown out the cheers from Oscar.
Oscar on the Vikes:
"I am all in for a 4th place finish."
Should have been WAY more booing from the home crowd imo. You have to drown out the cheers from Oscar.
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Spot on!Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:09 pmThe only RB that ever came back the same the next year is the child beater. Expecting that Cook was coming back last year as the same guy we drafted was just foolish. Running the same damn running play right up the middle where our line sucked was a legit in season fireable offense.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:23 pmYep.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:19 pm
Saying that Teddy went 11-5 is the single dumbest logic I’ve ever heard.
You literally have to believe Dilfer and Flacco are better than Marino if you go with that.
AP was also one of the greatest RBs who has ever lived.
It's all Kirks fault even though we had a absolutely ATROCIOUS running game last year. Nobody talks about that.
There are still delusions here that Cook can be just as good. I like Cook. Absolutely loved that pick but he hasn't done anything yet and he's going into year 3.
And it is very true that just saying Teddy got us this record is foolish. Peterson was nasty and so was the D. All he had to do was limit mistakes, run for an occasional first down and he did. Cousins had to do a ton more with a nasty rush coming because we couldn't run and never changed one thing about our play calling after week 3. Cousins on that Teddy team wins more. A healthy Teddy on last year's team might win more getting away from the rush. The NFL above all other things is a team game. One weakness can fuck up 5 things. One strength like avoiding a rusher can fix 5 things. (Case did that) Do people really think our line just got way worse? Our QB got less mobile and our run play calling sucked.
If your strengths can't mask you weaknesses you don't win. Pats don't win because they are best at anything. They have the fewest weaknesses and make the fewest mistakes.
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Should have been WAY more booing from the home crowd imo. You have to drown out the cheers from Oscar.
Oscar on the Vikes:
"I am all in for a 4th place finish."
Should have been WAY more booing from the home crowd imo. You have to drown out the cheers from Oscar.
Oscar on the Vikes:
"I am all in for a 4th place finish."
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Sounds like a lot of excuses to me. And not the #1 position. On top of the GM not having the depth to replace these injuries. Let's face it. The GM hasn't done very well in the draft with the offensive line.
Serious question. How old are you? It's just a football discussion. No need to name call and get so over emotional.
Serious question. How old are you? It's just a football discussion. No need to name call and get so over emotional.
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Thrillkill wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:09 pmThe only RB that ever came back the same the next year is the child beater. Expecting that Cook was coming back last year as the same guy we drafted was just foolish. Running the same damn running play right up the middle where our line sucked was a legit in season fireable offense.Sergeant Rubetube wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:23 pmYep.Ash Ketchum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:19 pm
Saying that Teddy went 11-5 is the single dumbest logic I’ve ever heard.
You literally have to believe Dilfer and Flacco are better than Marino if you go with that.
AP was also one of the greatest RBs who has ever lived.
It's all Kirks fault even though we had a absolutely ATROCIOUS running game last year. Nobody talks about that.
There are still delusions here that Cook can be just as good. I like Cook. Absolutely loved that pick but he hasn't done anything yet and he's going into year 3.
And it is very true that just saying Teddy got us this record is foolish. Peterson was nasty and so was the D. All he had to do was limit mistakes, run for an occasional first down and he did. Cousins had to do a ton more with a nasty rush coming because we couldn't run and never changed one thing about our play calling after week 3. Cousins on that Teddy team wins more. A healthy Teddy on last year's team might win more getting away from the rush. The NFL above all other things is a team game. One weakness can fuck up 5 things. One strength like avoiding a rusher can fix 5 things. (Case did that) Do people really think our line just got way worse? Our QB got less mobile and our run play calling sucked.
If your strengths can't mask you weaknesses you don't win. Pats don't win because they are best at anything. They have the fewest weaknesses and make the fewest mistakes.
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Well, you have a tendency to be wrong, like when you thought your girlfriend was a female.DarrinNelson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:17 pm Sounds like a lot of excuses to me. And not the #1 position. On top of the GM not having the depth to replace these injuries. Let's face it. The GM hasn't done very well in the draft with the offensive line.
Serious question. How old are you? It's just a football discussion. No need to name call and get so over emotional.