2018 Froob All-Time NFL Draft - Norn_Iron is on the clock!

[BBG]

I’d like to poll everyone to see if people support or are against the “no skips on weekends” rule.

Against. This isnt 1998 where you only have internet access in the office. We all have smartphones. Takes no time to check once a day, and there aren't so many of us that we dont know if we'll be coming up or not. If you're hemmed up just drop names and expand later.

Jmho.

This is my vote, thanks ant.

[Ash Ketchum]

Sounds good. After this weekend, we’ll skip on weekends as well. I know we aren’t in any real hurry, but once I have all the players in Madden, it’ll be relatively easy to just switch players around if we want to go again after it’s all over.

While we wait, was thinking we could discuss how it’ll go on Madden.

I assume not all of you have Madden, so we can’t actually play, and so we’ll sim the games and I’ll stream them and post the Twitch link so you can watch (you won’t need to watch live, Twitch let’s you save the streams for later viewing).

I will turn subs off so none of the bench players get any snaps, and I will turn injuries off.

We’ll run a full season, but I’ll only stream AFC vs AFC games. Stats will be recorded, and I’ll post screen shots of league leaders and any stats you guys want to see as we go.

I am still trying to play around with it, but I think you guys will be able to pick, in general, what kind of “system” you want to run with your team. 4-3 vs 3-4 obviously, what tendencies your “coach” has such as run/pass % and what playbook you use. It will be a matter of me manually switching over to a new “character” on Madden for each team, so bear with me.

None of this is likely to go without some hiccups, so please keep that in mind. This is a lot of work.

I am thinking I’ll have the most time to stream on weekends or night time, so I’ll try to be realistic with when the streams are posted. There’s usually 4-6 AFC vs. AFC games per NFL week, so I’ll probably manage to get through an NFL week in roughly a few real life days.

Maybe, we’ll do a Froob Game of the Week stream posted in the evening, with the remaining games being done by the end of the next day. I’ll try my best with that.

Any questions or suggestions?

[Norn_Iron]

When my team comes last this time, does that mean i get to pick first next time, so i can eventually get 4 picks at a time?

[DuffMan]

OLB Mike Vrabel and CB Chris McAlister.

QB Tom Brady
RB Emmitt Smith
LB Junior Seau
DE Howie Long
DT Aaron Donald
OG John Hannah
WR Steve Largent
DT Richard Seymour
WR Antonio Brown
S Leroy Butler
LB Joey Porter
TE Ben Coates
DE Neil Smith
CB Albert Lewis
S Bob Sanders
CB Chris McAlister
OLB Mike Vrabel

[BBG]

Sounds good. After this weekend, we’ll skip on weekends as well. I know we aren’t in any real hurry, but once I have all the players in Madden, it’ll be relatively easy to just switch players around if we want to go again after it’s all over.

While we wait, was thinking we could discuss how it’ll go on Madden.

I assume not all of you have Madden, so we can’t actually play, and so we’ll sim the games and I’ll stream them and post the Twitch link so you can watch (you won’t need to watch live, Twitch let’s you save the streams for later viewing).

I will turn subs off so none of the bench players get any snaps, and I will turn injuries off.

We’ll run a full season, but I’ll only stream AFC vs AFC games. Stats will be recorded, and I’ll post screen shots of league leaders and any stats you guys want to see as we go.

I am still trying to play around with it, but I think you guys will be able to pick, in general, what kind of “system” you want to run with your team. 4-3 vs 3-4 obviously, what tendencies your “coach” has such as run/pass % and what playbook you use. It will be a matter of me manually switching over to a new “character” on Madden for each team, so bear with me.

None of this is likely to go without some hiccups, so please keep that in mind. This is a lot of work.

I am thinking I’ll have the most time to stream on weekends or night time, so I’ll try to be realistic with when the streams are posted. There’s usually 4-6 AFC vs. AFC games per NFL week, so I’ll probably manage to get through an NFL week in roughly a few real life days.

Maybe, we’ll do a Froob Game of the Week stream posted in the evening, with the remaining games being done by the end of the next day. I’ll try my best with that.

Any questions or suggestions?

This is so fucking cool. Hats off and props to ash for making this happen.

[Ash Ketchum]

Ash Ketchum (A) aka the Raiders select...



OG Logan Mankins

- 7x Pro Bowler
- 6x All Pro

and...



OLB Thomas Davis

Here’s my reasoning for Thomas Davis.

For whatever reason in the broad conversation about who the best linebackers of all time are, we lump all “linebackers” together. That means 3-4 OLBs who are pass rushers and accumulate glamorous sack totals are lumped together with 4-3 MLB, 3-4 ILB and 4-3 OLB (Will AND Sam), each of which are their own specific position and have VERY different job descriptions.

A 4-3 weakside LB and a 3-4 OLB are no more similar than a WR and a RB are. They both play on the same side of the ball and have similar goals as far as the team goes, but they do completely different things.

If in our collective minds, we mentally separated the specific LB positions rather than lumping them all together, someone like Thomas Davis would be considered more of an all-timer than he is.

He is one of the very best 4-3 weakside LB of all time when you consider his intelligence, leadership, tackling ability and speed in coverage. He’s a surefire Hall of Famer if WLB was thought of as its own position.

He doesn’t get the respect he deserves because so many 3-4 OLBs who put up gaudy sack totals leapfrog him in our mental rankings of “linebackers.” Similarly MLBs are always thought of as the centerpiece to a defense, and so they too rise in the rankings because of it.


WR Moss
DT Sapp
DE Strahan
CB Green
RB Tomlinson
MLB Kuechly
WR Jones
QB Cunningham
SS Taylor
CB Barber
FS Thomas
DE Suggs
OG Wisniewski
OT Anderson
TE Olsen
OG Mankins
OLB Davis

[mglviks]

S Kenny Easley 6'3 207

One of the leagues great centerfielder. Pure ballhawk.
DPOY, 5 probowls, 3 all pros, all 80s team.
Short career after getting kidney disease.
32 picks in 89 games

WR Wes Welker 5'9 190

5x probowler, 4 all pros

5 years with over 100 catches.
Cant think of a much better slot receiver. Certainly knows how to win. Jitterbug with hands and knack for finding a soft spot. Gives Rodgers a deadly trio.

Aaron Rodgers
Curtis Martin
Andre Johnson
Torry Holt
Wes Welker
Maurkice Pouncey
Richmond Webb
Chris Samuels

Leslie ONeil
Vince Wilfork
Lawrence Taylor
Jack Lambert
Kevin Greene
Mike Haynes
Patrick Peterson
Kenny Easley
Joey Browner

[mglviks]

OLB Mike Vrabel and CB Chris McAlister.

QB Tom Brady
RB Emmitt Smith
LB Junior Seau
DE Howie Long
DT Aaron Donald
OG John Hannah
WR Steve Largent
DT Richard Seymour
WR Antonio Brown
S Leroy Butler
LB Joey Porter
TE Ben Coates
DE Neil Smith
CB Albert Lewis
S Bob Sanders
CB Chris McAlister
OLB Mike Vrabel

Up again.

[RubeTube]

S Kenny Easley 6'3 207

One of the leagues great centerfielder. Pure ballhawk.
DPOY, 5 probowls, 3 all pros, all 80s team.
Short career after getting kidney disease.
32 picks in 89 games

WR Wes Welker 5'9 190

5x probowler, 4 all pros

5 years with over 100 catches.
Cant think of a much better slot receiver. Certainly knows how to win. Jitterbug with hands and knack for finding a soft spot. Gives Rodgers a deadly trio.

Aaron Rodgers
Curtis Martin
Andre Johnson
Torry Holt
Wes Welker
Maurkice Pouncey
Richmond Webb
Chris Samuels

Leslie ONeil
Vince Wilfork
Lawrence Taylor
Jack Lambert
Kevin Greene
Mike Haynes
Patrick Peterson
Kenny Easley
Joey Browner

I can tell you a better slot Wr. Boldin. I took him earlier.

[bombers3shooter]

Of the 2 former Patriots recently taken amazing stats I didn't realize and really surprised me....

1. Wes Welker no rings
2. Tom Brady was like 13-1 in the playoffs without Logan Mankins and 9-8 in the playoffs with him and also zero rings.

How do you play with the goat that long and not get a chip?

[Ash Ketchum]

Of the 2 former Patriots recently taken amazing stats I didn't realize and really surprised me....

1. Wes Welker no rings
2. Tom Brady was like 13-1 in the playoffs without Logan Mankins and 9-8 in the playoffs with him and also zero rings.

How do you play with the goat that long and not get a chip?

Wow that is surprising.

Crazy that Welker never won one. Seems like he was there forever.

[Norn_Iron]

Its nearly 2am here, and I am again waiting for duffman.....

[bombers3shooter]

Of the 2 former Patriots recently taken amazing stats I didn't realize and really surprised me....

1. Wes Welker no rings
2. Tom Brady was like 13-1 in the playoffs without Logan Mankins and 9-8 in the playoffs with him and also zero rings.

How do you play with the goat that long and not get a chip?

Wow that is surprising.

Crazy that Welker never won one. Seems like he was there forever.

Mankins and Welker both have rings if he catches this one!

[Norn_Iron]

Fuxk off

[Norn_Iron]

Fuxk off

Sorry meant for game thread

[AaronVikes]

What?

[Norn_Iron]

What?

Im trying to follow both threads. I suck, and currently we also suck.

Majorly

[mglviks]

Cant even get a pick in during a game.

[Ash Ketchum]

Yeah always slows down at this end of the round.

[Ash Ketchum]

3pm today will be the skip time.

[DuffMan]

I'll go with OLB Pat Swilling and C Olin Kreutz here.

1. DE Reggie White
2. OLB Derrick Thomas
3. QB Drew Brees
4. CB Mel Blount
5. DE Carl Eller
6. OT Orlando Pace
7. RB Earl Campbell
8. DT Bob Lily
9. LB Zach Thomas
10. WR Andre Reed
11. OT Tony Boseli
12. OG Marshal Yanda
13. WR Hines Ward
14. CB Troy Vincent
15. DT Kris Jenkins
16. C Olin Kreutz
17. OLB Pat Swilling

[DuffMan]

Its nearly 2am here, and I am again waiting for duffman.....

Sorry dudes. I don't froob on the weekends, and certainly not during a Vikings game. I have a 2 and 5 year old so all of my down time happens at work. In all fairness, I'm still within the 24 hour rule.

[Norn_Iron]

I take DE - Cameron Jordan and G - Zack Martin

QB 1 - Joe Montana
QB 2

RB 1 - Gale Sayers
RB 2
WR 1 - Don Hutson
WR 2 - Adam Theilan
WR 3
TE 1
TE 2

OT 1 - Gary Zimmerman
OT 2 - Ron Yary
OG 1 - Zack Martin
OG 2
C 1 - Mike Webster

DE 1 - Gino Marchetti
DE 2 - Cameron Jordan
DT 1 - John Randle
DT 2 - Alan Page

LB 1 - Khalil Mack
LB 2 - Cornelius Bennett
LB 3
LB 4
CB 1 - Lester Hayes
CB 2 - Chris Dishman
CB 3
S 1 - Harrison Smith
S 2
1 K
1 P

[bombers3shooter]

I take DE - Cameron Jordan and G - Zack Martin

QB 1 - Joe Montana
QB 2

RB 1 - Gale Sayers
RB 2
WR 1 - Don Hutson
WR 2 - Adam Theilan
WR 3
TE 1
TE 2

OT 1 - Gary Zimmerman
OT 2 - Ron Yary
OG 1 - Zack Martin
OG 2
C 1 - Mike Webster

DE 1 - Gino Marchetti
DE 2 - Cameron Jordan
DT 1 - John Randle
DT 2 - Alan Page

LB 1 - Khalil Mack
LB 2 - Cornelius Bennett
LB 3
LB 4
CB 1 - Lester Hayes
CB 2 - Chris Dishman
CB 3
S 1 - Harrison Smith
S 2
1 K
1 P

Zach Martin has already been picked

[Ash Ketchum]

I take DE - Cameron Jordan and G - Zack Martin

QB 1 - Joe Montana
QB 2

RB 1 - Gale Sayers
RB 2
WR 1 - Don Hutson
WR 2 - Adam Theilan
WR 3
TE 1
TE 2

OT 1 - Gary Zimmerman
OT 2 - Ron Yary
OG 1 - Zack Martin
OG 2
C 1 - Mike Webster

DE 1 - Gino Marchetti
DE 2 - Cameron Jordan
DT 1 - John Randle
DT 2 - Alan Page

LB 1 - Khalil Mack
LB 2 - Cornelius Bennett
LB 3
LB 4
CB 1 - Lester Hayes
CB 2 - Chris Dishman
CB 3
S 1 - Harrison Smith
S 2
1 K
1 P

Martin gone, pick again

[D_B_U]

Should I pick or wait a bit for him to re-pick his other one?

[Ash Ketchum]

Should I pick or wait a bit for him to re-pick his other one?

Wait for him

[Norn_Iron]

Should I pick or wait a bit for him to re-pick his other one?

Wait for him

Apologies - thought I had checked the first page, but if did I either can't type or read.

I take DE - Cameron Jordan and G - David Decastro

QB 1 - Joe Montana
QB 2

RB 1 - Gale Sayers
RB 2
WR 1 - Don Hutson
WR 2 - Adam Theilan
WR 3
TE 1
TE 2

OT 1 - Gary Zimmerman
OT 2 - Ron Yary
OG 1 - David Decastro
OG 2
C 1 - Mike Webster

DE 1 - Gino Marchetti
DE 2 - Cameron Jordan
DT 1 - John Randle
DT 2 - Alan Page

LB 1 - Khalil Mack
LB 2 - Cornelius Bennett
LB 3
LB 4
CB 1 - Lester Hayes
CB 2 - Chris Dishman
CB 3
S 1 - Harrison Smith
S 2
1 K
1 P

[D_B_U]

And then you go and take my guy... DANG IT!

DBU Team A- Broncos Select:

DE Cameron Wake
S Emlen Tunnell

Team A-Broncos
Offense
QB: Steve Young
RB: Jim Brown
WR: Terrell Owens/ Art Monk
TE: Jason Witten
OT: Trent Williams
OG: Bruce Matthews
C
Defense
DE: Doug Atkins/ Cameron Wake
DT: Joe Greene/ Ndamukong Suh
MLB- Willie Lanier
OLB- James Harrison
CB: Darrelle Revis/ Aqib Talib
S: Jack Tatum/Emlen Tunnell
K
P

[Norn_Iron]

And then you go and take my guy... DANG IT!

Right back at you Bruce Matthews